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five link for a gq
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:32 pm
by cun7s
hi i would like 2 now if the five link is worth the $$dollers and will it work well 4 rock crawling or is there a better set up then the five link .its for a gq and some photos of the five link a gq would be nice to look at and whos useing one now and what length shocks should you run with a five link .
ive got a 6inc tuff dog set up will the springs and shocks ive got suit the five link or will i have buy ones 2 suit it.
dont do it
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:13 pm
by dazza30875
i wouldn't do the 5 link, as it will make your truck more able to role over.
i would try the X link set up.
good luck
Re: dont do it
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:16 pm
by ozy1
dazza30875 wrote:i wouldn't do the 5 link, as it will make your truck more able to role over.
i would try the X link set up.
good luck
have you ever run one? have you driven one? have you built the setup or bought a bolt on kit? if you add all this info, it will give the bloke a more definitive answer,
NOW:
I just recently put a 5 link in the front of my GQ MWB ute, now this truck is a comp truck, and rearly sees road use, and by rarly i mean 20ks in the last year max,
now we damabged the chassis where the original arms mount through, so we turfed them and built a 5 link front end for it, its not a bolt on kits, its all custom buil in the shed, no cad drawings or anything major,
i dont actually have pics at the moment, but our setup uses 680mm long lowers, 450mm long uppers, lower arms are about 24 drgrees angle, uppers are at 6 degrees or there abouts, i know they asre not paralell, but hey its was a trial, on the first run it prefprmed really well, we could not fualt it, this setup also pushed the front diff forward about 2" which is great in a comp ute, but our ppanhard bar does touch the pumpkin on full compression, but owell, that will change,
I think ours drives better now upto 60km/h on the unbalanced 38" swampers than it did before with aftetrmarket drop arms,
anyways find one and take it for a spin, get your own impressions,
Re: dont do it
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:51 pm
by cun7s
ozy1 wrote:dazza30875 wrote:i wouldn't do the 5 link, as it will make your truck more able to role over.
i would try the X link set up.
good luck
have you ever run one? have you driven one? have you built the setup or bought a bolt on kit? if you add all this info, it will give the bloke a more definitive answer,
thanks mate
NOW:
I just recently put a 5 link in the front of my GQ MWB ute, now this truck is a comp truck, and rearly sees road use, and by rarly i mean 20ks in the last year max,
now we damabged the chassis where the original arms mount through, so we turfed them and built a 5 link front end for it, its not a bolt on kits, its all custom buil in the shed, no cad drawings or anything major,
i dont actually have pics at the moment, but our setup uses 680mm long lowers, 450mm long uppers, lower arms are about 24 drgrees angle, uppers are at 6 degrees or there abouts, i know they asre not paralell, but hey its was a trial, on the first run it prefprmed really well, we could not fualt it, this setup also pushed the front diff forward about 2" which is great in a comp ute, but our ppanhard bar does touch the pumpkin on full compression, but owell, that will change,
I think ours drives better now upto 60km/h on the unbalanced 38" swampers than it did before with aftetrmarket drop arms,
anyways find one and take it for a spin, get your own impressions,
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:57 pm
by PGS 4WD
We've got a second hand low klm Wizard one here still on car to try, its yours for $1000.
Joel
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:05 am
by Nelso
I've had a couple of mates break the Wizard bolt on five links. The lower links are not strong enough with the bend in them if you drive hard.
As for how 5 links drive. You will get more body roll but they will also ride much better offroad as the whole car doesn't lurch around when a front wheel rides over a bump. They feel exactly like driving with an X-link or radius arms with a bolt removed as all three free up the front end to flex.
As long as you run a swaybar on the road they are fine and once you drive with one offroad you will never want to take it off, as the car is better balanced and drives so much better.
Re: dont do it
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:40 am
by Wendle
ozy1 wrote:i know they asre not paralell, but hey its was a trial
That's not a bad thing. With parallel arms they tend to dive under brakes quite badly.
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:28 am
by cun7s
Nelso wrote:I've had a couple of mates break the Wizard bolt on five links. The lower links are not strong enough with the bend in them if you drive hard.
As for how 5 links drive. You will get more body roll but they will also ride much better offroad as the whole car doesn't lurch around when a front wheel rides over a bump. They feel exactly like driving with an X-link or radius arms with a bolt removed as all three free up the front end to flex.
As long as you run a swaybar on the road they are fine and once you drive with one offroad you will never want to take it off, as the car is better balanced and drives so much better.
thnks mate for that
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:52 am
by blackmav
-Stool- has had one for years in his wagon and has had a number of different height springs, including 6 inch ones.
It is yet to fall over on or off road.
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:18 pm
by stool
Yep it drive`s fine just with a little more bodyroll .
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:16 pm
by TEAMRPM
Id go 5 link for sure, had em, built em, fitted em and love em. once they are fine tuned to sui the vehicle, faultless
they are interesting at high speed on the black stuff but pay off in da bush.
if you use a good set of shocks and a quick release sway bar setup to help stability, you wont regret it..
cheers
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:43 am
by extra niss
ihave had a moifed wizard five link in my gq for years and i would not recommend them i am always cracking it the chassis mounting plates and where i welded it on to the chassis because the 4 sway bar mounting bolts stripped the first time it went off road. my brother has one and he has had the same problems. an don't forget about alot less ground clearance and i bend lower arms quite abit and they are 9 mm side wall. i have had to do a far bit to get my turning circle back as well.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:44 pm
by twodiffs
So watching this with interest myself I'm not sure if 5 link or xlink is the answer? I don't have sway bars on full stop...so if i go 5/xlink one day should i be putting the rear sway bar back on at least?
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:19 pm
by hotrod4x4
Its personal preference for the sway bars..........and obviously depending on your coil rates.
you will find with a 5 link you can run a firmer coil, as the 5 link allows it to flex as apposed to the standard where they run a soft spring trying to get it to flex.
I ran a 5link for many yrs, bit of body roll is minor compared to the advantages it provides.
Just make sure geometry and lengths are right if using on-road, otherwise you will get more wobble in the front.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:46 pm
by cun7s
hotrod4x4 wrote:Its personal preference for the sway bars..........and obviously depending on your coil rates.
you will find with a 5 link you can run a firmer coil, as the 5 link allows it to flex as apposed to the standard where they run a soft spring trying to get it to flex.
I ran a 5link for many yrs, bit of body roll is minor compared to the advantages it provides.
Just make sure geometry and lengths are right if using on-road, otherwise you will get more wobble in the front.
thanks that mate i will be doing a snake racing five link and what shocks did you uses
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:00 am
by hotrod4x4
I had a few different length shocks, depending on which coils I was running.
they were adjustable rancho's, but I think there's better on the market now.
Adjustable is the obvious choice though, so you can firm it up for onroad if needed.
Not familiar with the specs on Ryans Snake kits, just make sure you research it. Theres alot of dodgy kits around that arent worth it (a few already discredited, and could name more). Best choice is custom made by someone that knows what their doing, and I dont mean a 4wd parts fit-up shop.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:12 pm
by q_ship
i would call Mick @ superior engineering as well for abit of advice. well known and highly regarded on here from what i can gather
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:41 pm
by cun7s
q_ship wrote:i would call Mick @ superior engineering as well for abit of advice. well known and highly regarded on here from what i can gather
thanks i will do ass my gq has all superior engineeing gear in it