Rear end decision

Post by **4runner_boy** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:20 pm

Gday i have an 85 model solid axle 4runner,i want more articulation from the rear so i was thinking of converting it to coils,what would be the better option,Take the rear out of a surf,80 or GQ.
Or keep the housings i have and rig something up.
Whats everyones thoughts cheers

Post by **johno88** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:03 pm

leave springs can flex really well. a set of IFS 2inch raised springs on extended shackles would work well. there will be plenty of people with ideas. hope it might help

Post by **DIRTY ROCK STAR** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:08 pm

yeah real long leaves and shackles will help you get good flex.
otherwise you might end up with width issues with those diffs mentioned as they will be a fair bit wider then your stock diffs.

Post by **4runner_boy** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:10 pm

Yeh, i have shortened the rear of the body and i have a supercharged v6 in it, i was actually trying to get a bit more width if i could, i need to get an engineers certificate for all the mods done so far so i thought i may as well go all out put some good suspension under it, i will probably do majority of the work myself to..

Post by **chunderlicious** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:47 pm

surf or 80 series rear chassis cut will probably be your best bet. surf diff with 80 series chassis mounts would be better than surf chassis and the surf diff is only 2 inches wider.

80 series diff is alot wider (6 inches from memory) and will be stronger aswell.

Post by **booflux** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:50 am

Run an IFS rear diff with wheels with a good offset.
Mines plenty wide enough and flexes fine with the Trail Gear kit in it.

My springs are still new and havent settled yet so flex should only get better.

Post by **4runner_boy** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:39 pm

Ok cool so is going coils worth the work or should i work with the leafs,your truck looks good boof,the trail gear stuff looks pretty good on their site.
I think i might of stuffed up tho,i cut the body down to the rear wheel arch anticipating the coil conversion ah well..

Post by **booflux** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:43 am

I would just work with the leafs but for every one that would work the leafs you will find 2 that would go coils. Personal preference imo

Post by **Rory** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:53 am

im another vote for playing with leafs, its easier than re inventing the wheel for the small gain ull get, sure it will be comfyer and prob flex abit better, but when will u need that extra flex over what boof has anyway. For the money ull spend doing the mods and then engineering id stick with leafs..

Post by **Lux_89** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:33 pm

rory tru as. four runner boy go to mem sections and read through my build up. i have stock ifs rears in the back with bubs shackles and inverted shocks.. cheap as to do cost me 300 bucks m8 cheap as chips and when i got the flippies on she flex's really well.... my 2c, and lock the rear up she will push through anything then.

Post by **4runner_boy** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:43 pm

yeh i think ill play with leafs,would i gain much going for a trail gear set up,I thought about going out and getting an IFS rear housing and the trail gear setup with a lockrite,Would this handle the v6 and 37s cheers

Post by **booflux** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:47 pm

The Trail Gear springs and shckles wont cost you much more than Lux 89 if only doing the rear, and they work straight out of the box. No trial and error and no stuffing around pulling leafs out etc. Those pics of mine were its first decent trip out and they are no where near broken in yet.

Post by **bubs** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:30 pm

booflux wrote:The Trail Gear springs and shckles wont cost you much more than Lux 89 if only doing the rear, and they work straight out of the box. No trial and error and no stuffing around pulling leafs out etc. Those pics of mine were its first decent trip out and they are no where near broken in yet.

The trail gear springs and shackles from locktup are $624 + shocks on top of that

The IFS spring conversion is $240 + a 2nd hand set of springs + shocks for the man on a budget it can't be beat.

Both kits have there place

Post by **booflux** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:53 pm

http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/product/c3 ... 73398.aspx

Springs are 440 delivered any shackles can be used.
As said both have their benefits but I wouldnt be calling the Trail Gear setup expensive its damn good value imo. And having had IFS rear springs they really dont compare

Post by **bubs** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:27 pm

bubs wrote:
booflux wrote:The Trail Gear springs and shckles wont cost you much more than Lux 89 if only doing the rear, and they work straight out of the box. No trial and error and no stuffing around pulling leafs out etc. Those pics of mine were its first decent trip out and they are no where near broken in yet.
The trail gear springs and shackles from locktup are $624 + shocks on top of that

The IFS spring conversion is $240 + a 2nd hand set of springs + shocks for the man on a budget it can't be beat.

Both kits have there place

I should have read that before posting

The IFS spring conversion I speak of is my 200mm shackles and the rear shock inversion kit. which is another + on the trail gear.

I have no problem with the trail gear stuff, my new lux will have plenty of gear on it from locktup.

Post by **booflux** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:52 pm

bubs wrote:
bubs wrote:
booflux wrote:The Trail Gear springs and shckles wont cost you much more than Lux 89 if only doing the rear, and they work straight out of the box. No trial and error and no stuffing around pulling leafs out etc. Those pics of mine were its first decent trip out and they are no where near broken in yet.
The trail gear springs and shackles from locktup are $624 + shocks on top of that

The IFS spring conversion is $240 + a 2nd hand set of springs + shocks for the man on a budget it can't be beat.

Both kits have there place
I should have read that before posting

The IFS spring conversion I speak of is my 200mm shackles and the rear shock inversion kit. which is another + on the trail gear.

I have no problem with the trail gear stuff, my new lux will have plenty of gear on it from locktup.

I agree but considering IFS rears go for 100-150 most of the time its only 300 extra for new springs that will flex better, ride better and last better than IFS ones with springs ripped out so they can actually flex. But if dollars is the main concern then the IFS rears are a top way to go.

Post by **Lux_89** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:03 am

yeh ill add to this

ill run ya on the stuff i used and payed.

IFS SPRINGS = $50
SHOCKS = Already had
SHACKLES = Bubs $140 awseome shacles 'plug plug'

MOUNTS = Cut off the old front housing

MOST IMPORTANT = Time, this costs nothing, it takes 10mins to remove a bottom load leaf

And Fitment time, allow a day and a carton to cruise through it. Thats welding and everything. IMO running the flipped rims seems to push the whole setup alot more.

heres mine

if you look down the drivers side, in a rutted situation, it shows its true colors, stump dosent show its full potential.

Post by **Rory** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:34 pm

ill also pay the flipped rims,nothings better than abit of width, when i had flipped rims on mine it was a very stable ride

Post by **4runner_boy** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:39 pm

your truck looks awesome lux 89, i will go trail gear stuff i reckon.
Wil i have any dramas with axle wrap, and in your opinions would i gain much getting a rear ifs lux d/housing and a hub kit for the front for width

Post by **Rory** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:50 pm

yeah ull gain width, which means stablity so its def worth it

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