Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Does anybody know if window nets need to be removable or at least be partially removable for comps

depends on comp, technically yes from both inside and outside. I had sail track at the bottom mine

There was a bit of discussion at the OBC. That a large number of guys want to either have the rules changed or need to redesign there nets.
As some wanted to remove them while in the water crossings and could get the net off. And I bet when under the pump or really needing to get out via the window net. It could be a little daunting.

So look at the design with which you go with. And make it so it is going to work as what there designed for and also be able to be removed easily.

As some competitors it appeared they where just cable tied around the top of the door. And self tappers used at the bottom.

When I used to race Fender Benders at the speedway, Press Studs were all that was required, (inside), so the thing was able to be pushed in and removed, but not pushed out by a helmet.

Interesting thread. Lots of people cable tie their nets to the window frame.
Would be quite hard to remove them in a hurry if need be.

There are a few ways to attach the net to the window frame...I have seen people use velcro, cable ties and recently I modified a set for Ian Paltridge that utilized press studs.

Along the bottom there are, once again, a few different ways to go...bungee loops, sailtrack, adhesive velcro and so on.

But in my opinion the best way (for quick removal/refitting) would be press studs around the window frame and bungee loops along the bottom. If you need to get out via the window in a hurry, you dont want to be looking for velcro tabs, or worse, sidecutters to cut the cable ties.

mine have wrap round tabs for the window frame top and a sinle "locating" loop to the rear, then velcro the length of the sill... furry side permanently attached to the car.

have had a few head taps and not moved.. but easy to rip away the bottom and get in or out if needed.

Cookie, if ya comin to tough tracks on the weekend... take a walk around and see what ppl are using..

Spock

Mine have a bar and an "r" clip at the bottom and wrap around Velco straps at the top....they wrap around the door frame at the top and they just jam in when you close the door.....

bit of a hijack... but does anyone know if you can get window net material in cargo barrier size?

I want to have a quick to put up/take down removable cargo barrier just to keep the dog and a few camping bits and pieces in the back when travelling but also want to be able to quickly drop it down to put in a long load from bunnings etc? Does something like this exist?

Do you need them Harb ????

I would not use zip ties. I bought the dear as 54.5kg rated ones from cabac and used them to hold on what was left of my grill. they kept breaking within hours of driving. In the end I had about 12 on the grill. they were not a bad batch as I tested them at work. I could see them failing when you punch your arm through when in a high speed roll but failing to break when you are about to drown!



The majority of trucks a Baja used sail track at the bottom and at the top one end was fixed in a tube the other used small seat belt style clasps welded on.
they looked like small aeroplane seatbelt clips

perhaps baby seats have small suitable clips. they appeared to be just the steel internals without the plastic shell and the tongue was cut as short as possible.

another method was fixed bottom, top had a 8mm roundbar one end in a tube the other end forced into tube by a spring (on the opposite end over the tube pushing on a washer welded to the round bar. So to get out just pull the top corner towards you and push out.

If anyone is interested I will get some laser cut ones made and tig welded.

I will charge $100 for a pair.

cheers bru

Anyone know where you can get the string-type made to size?

I will be running cut down (half) doors, so will probably need them bigger than 450x600 (made to size?)
Will run Velcro straps around cage bar at top & press studs on inside of door at bottom…

Dee wrote:Anyone know where you can get the string-type made to size?

I will be running cut down (half) doors, so will probably need them bigger than 450x600 (made to size?)
Will run Velcro straps around cage bar at top & press studs on inside of door at bottom…

What comp?

Dee wrote:Anyone know where you can get the string-type made to size?

I will be running cut down (half) doors, so will probably need them bigger than 450x600 (made to size?)
Will run Velcro straps around cage bar at top & press studs on inside of door at bottom…

We got Bartso's done to size. Took the practice door Bartso had in and they sorted it for us. We used press studs and bungy straps, but in hindsight, I would go the velcro. Micks Patrol has the velcro strips and it pulls the net firmer while still being very easy to remove if needed.


They do the strapping in 2 different widths aswell. I think this was the wider strap and the other option was a 2" width. Can't remember that far back.

Cheers,
Ryano

bru21 wrote:I would not use zip ties. I bought the dear as 54.5kg rated ones from cabac and used them to hold on what was left of my grill. they kept breaking within hours of driving. In the end I had about 12 on the grill. they were not a bad batch as I tested them at work. I could see them failing when you punch your arm through when in a high speed roll but failing to break when you are about to drown!



The majority of trucks a Baja used sail track at the bottom and at the top one end was fixed in a tube the other used small seat belt style clasps welded on.
they looked like small aeroplane seatbelt clips

perhaps baby seats have small suitable clips. they appeared to be just the steel internals without the plastic shell and the tongue was cut as short as possible.

another method was fixed bottom, top had a 8mm roundbar one end in a tube the other end forced into tube by a spring (on the opposite end over the tube pushing on a washer welded to the round bar. So to get out just pull the top corner towards you and push out.

If anyone is interested I will get some laser cut ones made and tig welded.

I will charge $100 for a pair.

cheers bru

We've got 150kg rated zip ties at work I always keep a handfull in my recovery kit.

Ryano wrote:

Dee wrote:Anyone know where you can get the string-type made to size?

I will be running cut down (half) doors, so will probably need them bigger than 450x600 (made to size?)
Will run Velcro straps around cage bar at top & press studs on inside of door at bottom…

We got Bartso's done to size. Took the practice door Bartso had in and they sorted it for us. We used press studs and bungy straps, but in hindsight, I would go the velcro. Micks Patrol has the velcro strips and it pulls the net firmer while still being very easy to remove if needed.
Cheers,
Ryano

thanks mate
who did em for ya & ballpark $ ??

i want the 'netting' style nets instead of the "ribbon" & cant find em anywhere

Dee wrote:i want the 'netting' style nets instead of the "ribbon" & cant find em anywhere

have you tired http://www.revolutionracegear.com.au/

Dee wrote:i want the 'netting' style nets instead of the "ribbon" & cant find em anywhere

not sure about other comps, but nissan trials only accepts the ribbon type

Dee wrote:

Ryano wrote:
We got Bartso's done to size. Took the practice door Bartso had in and they sorted it for us. We used press studs and bungy straps, but in hindsight, I would go the velcro. Micks Patrol has the velcro strips and it pulls the net firmer while still being very easy to remove if needed.
Cheers,
Ryano

thanks mate
who did em for ya & ballpark $ ??

x2

Dee wrote:i want the 'netting' style nets instead of the "ribbon" & cant find em anywhere

BBM do them.
they look nice and are in various sizes to fit models of door etc.

i rate them!

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:

Dee wrote:i want the 'netting' style nets instead of the "ribbon" & cant find em anywhere

BBM do them.
they look nice and are in various sizes to fit models of door etc.

i rate them!

He has cut down doors hence the custom bit

bad_religion_au wrote:

Dee wrote:i want the 'netting' style nets instead of the "ribbon" & cant find em anywhere

not sure about other comps, but nissan trials only accepts the ribbon type

yeah not to my knowledge??
Each competing vehicle will have fitted window nets on each side of the front windows of the vehicle. These will be of a quality webbing material in construction and fitted in such a way as to satisfy the Chief Verifier on inspection. Plastic construction bunting and the like will not be passed. (see Standards: photo #2 on the Nissan club page/Trials) If it is not possible to fit window nets to the vehicle, then an exemption can be applied for via the Event Secretary to the Clerk of the Course well prior the event. The application will be considered and permission granted to substitute wrist restraints of Australian Standards Approval.



Wicked, ahh there is always a hiccup.
stick 2 together?

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:

bad_religion_au wrote:

Dee wrote:i want the 'netting' style nets instead of the "ribbon" & cant find em anywhere

not sure about other comps, but nissan trials only accepts the ribbon type

yeah not to my knowledge??
Each competing vehicle will have fitted window nets on each side of the front windows of the vehicle. These will be of a quality webbing material in construction and fitted in such a way as to satisfy the Chief Verifier on inspection. Plastic construction bunting and the like will not be passed. (see Standards: photo #2 on the Nissan club page/Trials) If it is not possible to fit window nets to the vehicle, then an exemption can be applied for via the Event Secretary to the Clerk of the Course well prior the event. The application will be considered and permission granted to substitute wrist restraints of Australian Standards Approval.



Wicked, ahh there is always a hiccup.
stick 2 together?

i saw somewhere on the trials site that webbing as to be minimum of 1 inch wide or something