Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:27 pm**

M&M Custom Engineering is manufacturing its own Toyota Widetrack Kit.

The Kit includes all necessary high tensile bolts, CNC machined spacers and new hub seals required to fit IFS hubs onto the front of your hilux or cruiser diff. M&M Custom Engineering can also supply the IFS hubs with the kit.

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:56 pm**

Whats the price on this kit?
Thanks
Paul.

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:42 pm**

Is anyone interested in a group buy on these?

I will work out some prices for everyone.

The more people that want them the cheaper they will be.

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:49 pm**

Sounds good

For a start can you tell us the normal everyday price you will be selling them for?
Paul.

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:50 pm**

im definetly in :cool:

was about to buy some from chaos this week actually...see what you can do ...probably need the hubs aswell if right price

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:58 pm**

$385 is the normal price.

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:21 pm**

I am in!!!!!! Group buy. Can we actually get this group buy going this time!! I was also going to buy my widetrack from ORI, but if m&m can come to the party on a cheaper price......

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:27 pm**

OK Im in if we can get the price down to sweet amount.
So that makes 3 of us so far.
308LUX
big38l
ausyota

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:30 pm**

I'm interested but I need more information...

These space out your wheels right?

I know spacers arn't legal... but these are hubs from an IFS model?
Does that mean they are legal? If so I'm definatly up for a set... no more rollux.

Excuse the next silly question.... but how do you space the rear wheels?

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:36 pm**

junglist wrote:I'm interested but I need more information...

These space out your wheels right?

I know spacers arn't legal... but these are hubs from an IFS model?
Does that mean they are legal? If so I'm definatly up for a set... no more rollux.

Excuse the next silly question.... but how do you space the rear wheels?

yeh you use IFS hubs with a spacer which when all bolted up gives you a wider track of 1.5" each side.

dont know if its legal not to worried

for the rear wheels swap in an IFS rear diff...it is wider

YOU IN ??

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:53 pm**

Yeah the IFS wheel hubs are what give you the extra 1.5 inch width either side the spacers in the kit just space the brake disc back so it lines up with the caliper.
As far as I know they are legal, mickbj42?
And for the rear you need an IFS diff housing and axle shafts.
The IFS rear diff is identical to a solid front hilux (uses same centre etc)except for being 3 inches wider.

I allready have the IFS rear diff and the IFS front wheel hubs caus I have an IFS hilux :lol:

but Im going to do a solid axle swap on the front soon hopefully.
Paul.

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:58 pm**

What's the difference here -> wheels spacer - V.S - IFS hub with a spacer?

I thought it was the IFS hub which made it wider and there for allowed you to have a wider track with out the use of illegal spacers.

I'm trying to do research on it now.
Hopefully I won't have to ask you to many more silly questions.

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:13 pm**

The widetrack kit uses the IFS hubs to widen the track, the spacer is used to align the disc back up with the caliper.

I will get some photos of the hubs and where everything goes tomorrow, much easier to explain with pictures! :lol:

Wheel spacers are illegal, the IFS hub conversion is legal.

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:33 pm**

Id presume IFS hubs are legal because your actually replacing the whole hub, rather than putting a spacer in and reducing the bolt length on the hubs.

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:42 pm**

yes it is just changing from a shorter hub to longer one

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:43 pm**

Does the ifs rear axle bolt straight up?? If I could three inches front and back easily and legally I would be interested :armsup:

Posted: **Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:56 pm**

yep just bolts in you get 1.5" each side , ill be doing the swap in the next few weeks

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:41 am**

can someone type out plain and simple the cost of doing the front and the back.

I am definatly interested if the price is right.

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:53 am**

Got a set of IFS hubs complete minus the locking hubs in the shed for $80 for both if anyone is keen. (Includes brake rotors, calipers etc).

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:48 am**

Hey Mick, what rotors do you use ?

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:50 am**

We use the original hilux/cruiser rotors. The ifs rotors are smaller in diameter.

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:31 pm**

Here are some photos showing how to fit the widetrack kit.

Both hubs have had the discs removed.

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:32 pm**

Start off with the bare IFS hub as shown below.

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:33 pm**

then you put on the supplied spacer as shown

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:35 pm**

then tighten up the 6 allen head cap screws to retain the spacer to the hub.

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:38 pm**

the solid axle disc now needs to be bolted to the hub spacer with the 6 hex headed bolts as shown.

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:40 pm**

This is the finished hub with solid axle disc.

Now the hub needs to be re-assembled onto the diff just like a standard one!

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:21 pm**

SO WHOS IN ON THE GROUP BUY ??...so fare:

ausyota
big38l
308LUX
junglist ??
dj hansen ??
spazbot ??

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:26 pm**

Yerp, still in

Posted: **Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:29 pm**

Still waiting on trying to work out the total cost of the swap.
What do all the bits needed total at $$
Doing the front and the back.
Thanks.