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MQ/K vs GQ Diff Widths ?
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:32 pm
by Swerve
Hey all,
I am going to convert my G60 to MQ or Leaf GQ diffs.
Problem I have is I just bought a ARB rear locker for MQ (ARB RD04). bczook has some GQ leaf diffs for sale and I would really like the extra track, without the need for wheel spaces.
So the easiet option is to go MQ front rear, ideal solution may be GQ front with H233B and Rear MQ H233 with my Locker and wheel spaces to equal up the track.
Do people know what the track of the following diffs are as I searhed but couldnt loacte nothing.
MQ width ?
GQ Leaf Diff widths ? (I think they are the same as coilies)
Steve
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:22 pm
by WICKED
Dude I've JUST FINISHED going throught this! Call me!
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:33 pm
by Swerve
had a chat with wicked and now know there is about 30mm difference between the GQ leaf and MQ diffs.
For what I,m after there is no benefit for me to go GQ.
Will go the MQ diff option. Thanks Wicked
Steve
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:58 pm
by dattopimp
wow, only 30mm difference...Was that for the front diff only or both. Saw a few mqs out at cruiser on the weekend runnin different front diffs and got me rather curious.
On a side note i was stuck behind Wicked goin through the range sunday night. Mate, your truck is tough as in person...I waved as i overtook, dunno if you noticed though...
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:36 am
by WICKED
Swerve wrote:had a chat with wicked and now know there is about 30mm difference between the GQ leaf and MQ diffs.
For what I,m after there is no benefit for me to go GQ.
Will go the MQ diff option. Thanks Wicked
Steve
No worries mate.
dattopimp wrote:wow, only 30mm difference...Was that for the front diff only or both. Saw a few mqs out at cruiser on the weekend runnin different front diffs and got me rather curious.
On a side note i was stuck behind Wicked goin through the range sunday night. Mate, your truck is tough as in person...I waved as i overtook, dunno if you noticed though...
Haven't measured the rear yet but I'm thinking its the same or again bugger all.
Really? What ones? Pics?
LOL Thanks mate! Bet it was a slow trip behind us! lol
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:11 pm
by dattopimp
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:12 pm
by dattopimp
No close ups of the diff setups sorry.
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:55 am
by WICKED
Mate they are both runinng MQ diff's front and rear.
The Silver Ute is a good mate of mine. Nick. Those boggers don't like his inner axles, trying to talk him into a GQ diff too! lol
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:55 am
by RMP&O
WICKED wrote:Mate they are both runinng MQ diff's front and rear.
The Silver Ute is a good mate of mine. Nick. Those boggers don't like his inner axles, trying to talk him into a GQ diff too! lol
so he is breaking inner axles in front?
blue one looks to have H260 rear diff. Neither one looks to flex very well, but the pics aren't real flex shots.
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:58 am
by RMP&O
Swerve wrote:had a chat with wicked and now know there is about 30mm difference between the GQ leaf and MQ diffs.
For what I,m after there is no benefit for me to go GQ.
Will go the MQ diff option. Thanks Wicked
Steve
the one thing the GQ's have on the MQ diffs is strength. In paticular the front is stronger.
but hey that doesn't mean you will break the MQ diffs. All depends on you, how you drive it and all that jazz
Good move btw to upgrade the old G60 diffs to something better!
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:07 am
by WICKED
RMP&O wrote:WICKED wrote:Mate they are both runinng MQ diff's front and rear.
The Silver Ute is a good mate of mine. Nick. Those boggers don't like his inner axles, trying to talk him into a GQ diff too! lol
so he is breaking inner axles in front?
blue one looks to have H260 rear diff. Neither one looks to flex very well, but the pics aren't real flex shots.
Yer cause he is running GQ Cv's.
Its a H233 with a 4 link. Flex's quiet well....
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:14 pm
by mifo_2000
does that blue one have 2 shackles in the rear?
whats the go there if it does?
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:05 pm
by dattopimp
You sure about that blue one? Cause i was lookin at it and it definety was not a c200 front diff...
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:49 pm
by nick bj40
just wondering will gq coil diffs fit under an mq wit leafs? or will the pumpkin get in the way of the leaf springs? (if tht makes sense)
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:23 pm
by Swerve
nick bj40 wrote:just wondering will gq coil diffs fit under an mq wit leafs? or will the pumpkin get in the way of the leaf springs? (if tht makes sense)
From my discussion with Wicked
The GQ coil diffs are 100mm wider then MQ MK. Guess you can install them but you will need to remove all coil hardware, make new spring perches, rear is a centre diff so will need a offset tailshaft.
Steve
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:52 pm
by VXPSI
will the gq coils diffs bolt up or will have to modify that aswell?
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:39 pm
by mifo_2000
can some1 tell me whats the go with the shackles on the rear of the blue one?
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:29 am
by WICKED
mifo_2000 wrote:can some1 tell me whats the go with the shackles on the rear of the blue one?
Dude... Take a deep breath.... The are drop shackels....
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... ts_id=1481
dattopimp wrote:You sure about that blue one? Cause i was lookin at it and it definety was not a c200 front diff...
Sure? No........ Hmm No I'm thinking! lol
nick bj40 wrote:just wondering will gq coil diffs fit under an mq wit leafs? or will the pumpkin get in the way of the leaf springs? (if tht makes sense)
No!
The driver side spring pack sits almost over centre of the pumpkin.
For GQ Coils to work on a LEAF SPRUNG MQ...
Out board front springs to out side the chassis rail, or,
Carve out the housing, or,
Left the spring perches and packs off the diff housing but just over 50mm, or,
I'm sure there is other ways.....
Swerve wrote:
The GQ coil diffs are 100mm wider then MQ MK. Guess you can install them but you will need to remove all coil hardware, make new spring perches, rear is a centre diff so will need a offset tailshaft.
Steve
There is APPROX. 30mm (over all) Difference between MQ/MK to GQ Leaf.
There is APPROX. 99mm (long side) Difference between GQ leaf and GQ coil.
There is APPROX. 100mm (over all) Difference Between GQ Coil and CU Coil (GU Never came as a Leaf front only rear)
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:06 pm
by dattopimp
Yeah it looked like a GQ front, and also had the GQ coil steering setup. Which I was workin on...then it got pushed aside, i have all the hardware, just gotta find an machine shop to trim and rethread the draglink and drill, sleave and reverse the taper in the pitman and I'm in business. I rang a few places an no one seemed to be interested in taking my money :(
100mm difference! That'd be nice, but the work involved just isn't in my bin of things I want to do. This is my daily as well :( GQ leafy diffs though....dunno if sellin all my crap and buyin the gq gear plus locker is worth the extra 30mm. Might just stick to tryin to get my rims flipped.
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:10 pm
by WICKED
dattopimp wrote:
dunno if sellin all my crap and buyin the gq gear plus locker is worth the extra 30mm..
Dude MQ Rear centre with air locker can be made to fit in the front.
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:13 pm
by nick bj40
The driver side spring pack sits almost over centre of the pumpkin.
For GQ Coils to work on a LEAF SPRUNG MQ...
thks thought tht (bugger) but at least now i kno for sure
hmm wat can dream up maybe air shoks??? (droooul!) maybe one day
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:56 pm
by dattopimp
WICKED wrote:dattopimp wrote:
dunno if sellin all my crap and buyin the gq gear plus locker is worth the extra 30mm..
Dude MQ Rear centre with air locker can be made to fit in the front.
In the front? as in into a H233 front gq diff? See Then i need another h233 rear locker. I think i'll just leave things as they are.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:27 am
by WICKED
dattopimp wrote:WICKED wrote:dattopimp wrote:
dunno if sellin all my crap and buyin the gq gear plus locker is worth the extra 30mm..
Dude MQ Rear centre with air locker can be made to fit in the front.
In the front? as in into a H233 front gq diff? See Then i need another h233 rear locker. I think i'll just leave things as they are.
My MQ air locker is in my Front GQ Leaf housing and running in my car.
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/showthre ... 372&page=4
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:05 pm
by dattopimp
WICKED wrote:dattopimp wrote:WICKED wrote:dattopimp wrote:
dunno if sellin all my crap and buyin the gq gear plus locker is worth the extra 30mm..
Dude MQ Rear centre with air locker can be made to fit in the front.
In the front? as in into a H233 front gq diff? See Then i need another h233 rear locker. I think i'll just leave things as they are.
My MQ air locker is in my Front GQ Leaf housing and running in my car.
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/showthre ... 372&page=4
EDIT...Read your build up. Ok so I chuck my rear mq locker into the front gq diff. Then I need to get another locker for the rear :( After driving dual locked i don't wanna slum it back on a single
