Outer Limits 4x4 Board

HI guys,
Just joined outer limtis 4x4 and was wondering if anyone has used ridepro or fulcrum suspension.
is it good stuff or should i try something tried and tested such as old man emu gear.
I'm looking at going a three inch lift as its gives good clearance but doesn't compromise stability.
any thoughts will be considered in choosing the right suspension first time round.

I would use Tough Dog or EFS on GU Patrol. Call Mick at superior-3889 6778, he sells packages for all types of lifts. Hope this helps.

Koni, were the first stop on my GU... Was either them or OME..

Used Koni on the GQ, and OME and others... always come back to koni.

I'd go with tough dogs... I've had them on my GU ute for over 3 years now without a problem

I have 3" lift RP shocks all round, the rears are the new extremes. Very good for the price and valved good (koni valving i am told) welds look strong top and bottom.

Check this out.
There is a lot of info here
https://www.suspensionstuff.com.au/shop ... ts_id=1007

Cheers
Shane

I run koni on my gu ute and wouldn't go past them .

Thanks for all the info guys, I'm well on the way to working out what bits to use.
cheers

Ridepro extreme for the rear and std for the front, a very tough shock for the money. Well built and good welds, apparently they use koni valving. At least you can get them to suit any lift ! I had Dobis in the front for awhile, they are so heavy in the valving it was unreal. They would be good for comps, no good for mine with much not weight over the front.
The difference in ride quality was awesome...

Dick wrote:Ridepro extreme for the rear and std for the front, a very tough shock for the money. Well built and good welds, apparently they use koni valving. At least you can get them to suit any lift ! I had Dobis in the front for awhile, they are so heavy in the valving it was unreal. They would be good for comps, no good for mine with much not weight over the front.
The difference in ride quality was awesome...

I didn't think you could get the Ridepro shocks to suit the 3" lift.

My vote is for Lovells shocks. I have been getting great reviews from my customers. I like the Dobinsons coils.

Shane

Yep, sure can.. 730mm extended length. My coils are just snug at this. Agree Dobi coils are very good value.

hey what state do you live in pratty i can get you onto some dobinsons coils in vic.
scott smith who races a gu ute got dobinsons from patrolapart 3" or 4" he has

732mm shocks that Ridepro have are not suitable for a 3" lift. Your coils may or may not be snug when you are articulating but if you hit a big bump or put it in on the hoist a 3" lift coil will fall out.

The only way a 732mm shock will suit a 3" lift properly is with the 3" lift flexy coils that I do. There is one other company that has done 3" flexy coils.

Dick what is the part number for your coils?

Shane

procomp all the way

anthonysgq wrote:procomp all the way

I love how the Procomps ride but they are either too long or too short to get the most flex out of 3" lift coils. Procomps are 675mm extended for the 26.5" shocks and 710mm for the 27.5" Procomps.

The perfect length for a 3" lift coil is about 695mm extended so you are missing out on 20mm of flex. The shocks that are close to 695mm in length are Lovells, EFS, Dobinsons and many other brands.

My preference is for the Lovells.

Shane

4WD Stuff wrote:732mm shocks that Ridepro have are not suitable for a 3" lift. Your coils may or may not be snug when you are articulating but if you hit a big bump or put it in on the hoist a 3" lift coil will fall out.

The only way a 732mm shock will suit a 3" lift properly is with the 3" lift flexy coils that I do. There is one other company that has done 3" flexy coils.

Dick what is the part number for your coils?

Shane

I will get part number later on but the coils wont fall at fully extended ...

Dick wrote:

4WD Stuff wrote:732mm shocks that Ridepro have are not suitable for a 3" lift. Your coils may or may not be snug when you are articulating but if you hit a big bump or put it in on the hoist a 3" lift coil will fall out.

The only way a 732mm shock will suit a 3" lift properly is with the 3" lift flexy coils that I do. There is one other company that has done 3" flexy coils.

Dick what is the part number for your coils?

Shane

I will get part number later on but the coils wont fall at fully extended ...

Have you had it on a hoist or jacked your vehicle up from the centre until she starts to pivot. This is the only way you will know what lengths shocks are perfect for your coils because flexing it isn't the way to find out what shocks you need.

This isn't applicable to this thread but your bump stop spacers are worked out by pulling your coils out and resting the rear down on your bump stops and measuring what the compressed shock length would be and work it out from there. Flexing it and measuring it won't save your shocks.

Shane

4WD Stuff wrote:

Dick wrote:

4WD Stuff wrote:732mm shocks that Ridepro have are not suitable for a 3" lift. Your coils may or may not be snug when you are articulating but if you hit a big bump or put it in on the hoist a 3" lift coil will fall out.

The only way a 732mm shock will suit a 3" lift properly is with the 3" lift flexy coils that I do. There is one other company that has done 3" flexy coils.

Dick what is the part number for your coils?

Shane

I will get part number later on but the coils wont fall at fully extended ...

Have you had it on a hoist or jacked your vehicle up from the centre until she starts to pivot. This is the only way you will know what lengths shocks are perfect for your coils because flexing it isn't the way to find out what shocks you need.

This isn't applicable to this thread but your bump stop spacers are worked out by pulling your coils out and resting the rear down on your bump stops and measuring what the compressed shock length would be and work it out from there. Flexing it and measuring it won't save your shocks.

Shane

Coils are C45-311T
I cant get my head around why flexing wont find out what shocks you need ?? I have been driving mine offroad and getting others to observe and the springs are still nicely in place .. Sure I need to extend the bump stops but with internal bump "reduction" built into shock and an extreme situation to compress this far it would be unlikely. If in comps etc different story..
Appreciate your comments and always open to other input, good learning !

Also if it helps, ground to under my tray side is 1060mm.

Dick wrote:

4WD Stuff wrote:

Dick wrote:

4WD Stuff wrote:732mm shocks that Ridepro have are not suitable for a 3" lift. Your coils may or may not be snug when you are articulating but if you hit a big bump or put it in on the hoist a 3" lift coil will fall out.

The only way a 732mm shock will suit a 3" lift properly is with the 3" lift flexy coils that I do. There is one other company that has done 3" flexy coils.

Dick what is the part number for your coils?

Shane

I will get part number later on but the coils wont fall at fully extended ...

Have you had it on a hoist or jacked your vehicle up from the centre until she starts to pivot. This is the only way you will know what lengths shocks are perfect for your coils because flexing it isn't the way to find out what shocks you need.

This isn't applicable to this thread but your bump stop spacers are worked out by pulling your coils out and resting the rear down on your bump stops and measuring what the compressed shock length would be and work it out from there. Flexing it and measuring it won't save your shocks.

Shane

Coils are C45-311T
I cant get my head around why flexing wont find out what shocks you need ?? I have been driving mine offroad and getting others to observe and the springs are still nicely in place .. Sure I need to extend the bump stops but with internal bump "reduction" built into shock and an extreme situation to compress this far it would be unlikely. If in comps etc different story..
Appreciate your comments and always open to other input, good learning !

C45-311T is a 4-5" lift coil and is perfect for the 730mm shocks. If you are sitting at 3 inches above standard then you must have about 400kg or so in the rear.

For a 3" lift yes it does take an extreme situation to stuff the shocks but not so extreme for a 4-5" shock that you have. The shocks can take a bit of a knock here and there but they can't take too much because they just can't take it.

As for getting your head around coils falling out. I'm with you, I didn't believe it either until I got the high lift jack out. As it turns out your coils won't fall out because they are 4-5" lift coils so you dont' have to worry about that.

I would be checking the compressed length of the shocks though. When I phoned the Qld Ridepro supplier they had no idea about bump stops so I don't think they really know what's going on yet. Those shocks are very new but they will soon learn when they start getting warranty returns.

Shane

Thanks
all good info !
will look at bump stops ...