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bundera info please
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:44 pm
by skez
i have searched but cant find much info on these 1989 TOYOTA LANDCRUISER LJ70RV Bundera LX,
are these any good to do up is there much after market suspension etc available for these beacause i have heard that they are not a real landcruiser
and i have no idea about toyotas so any info would be heplful
there is one here
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/pr ... e+matchany
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:46 pm
by bigcam
you searched for "bundera suspension"????
there is shite loads of info on these cars on here. lj70 and rj70 ignore the bit on the end.
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:45 pm
by kykin
there great, and tough as a landcruiser to imo. mate has one with lockers and lift and big muds, was good as a built up 60series.
that one u have there is very rare to find, pitty bout the engine but. id much rather that one with coils and diesel over the leafs and 22r in some swb cruisers and local bundy's
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:02 pm
by dogbreath_48
kykin wrote:there great, and tough as a landcruiser to imo. mate has one with lockers and lift and big muds, was good as a built up 60series.
that one u have there is very rare to find, pitty bout the engine but. id much rather that one with coils and diesel over the leafs and 22r in some swb cruisers and local bundy's
No cruisers came with the 22r and Bunderas never came with leaves
'tough as a landcruiser' is a big call as they run mostly hilux spec (i.e. smaller) running gear.
Having said that, if a little SWB 4WD is what suits you, i reckon you could do a hell of a lot worse than a bundy! Plenty of suspension gear around for them (but don't expect it to flex or ride too well - one drawback of a very short wheelbase), and lots of barwork and accessories made for the full size cruisers will fit.
Don't be confused between bunderas (lux drivetrain, coil springs, SWB only - hard top and soft/fiberglass top) and full size cruisers (bigger cruiser drivetrain, leaf springs, SWB/MWB/LWB models all of differing body styles)
All engine options available in the bundy are pretty gutless and struggle a bit to haul the 'bigger' (than hilux, especially weight wise) car around.
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:10 pm
by kykin
ok then bundy's had the 22r, and yes they did have leaves. trust me. yeh not justa swb cruiser, the bundy did have a leaf modle.
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:59 pm
by skez
cool thanks for the help lads
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:42 pm
by hulsty
who what where and when was there a leaf bundy? never heard of one, my manuals only show coil bundys and leaf HD cruisers.
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:59 pm
by evanstaniland
kykin wrote:ok then bundy's had the 22r, and yes they did have leaves. trust me. yeh not justa swb cruiser, the bundy did have a leaf modle.
mate i think you should check your info out!! the 22r came out in Luxes and Bunderas.
the coils is what makes them different otherwise they would be just a SWB...id double check if i were you!!
as for the Question at hand!!
i got a bundera as my first car when i was 17 back in 2004, the bug bit and it soon had a 2" suspension lift and 2" body lift. i was keeping up with most of my mates that were alot bigger!! yoou do need to get used to lifting wheels tho being a shorty!!
there is also suspension from 80s that will fit!!
there are a few getting out in the scene!!
this is mine 2005 and then now
and a few others
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:00 pm
by kykin
no exact info for ya there, just know i was talking to a bloke working at 4wd wreckers behind baily cres while he was working on it, soft top grey bundy 22r leaf sprung. but hey if ur all gonna slaughter me about it lets just blame the pain killers
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:32 pm
by evanstaniland
kykin wrote:no exact info for ya there, just know i was talking to a bloke working at 4wd wreckers behind baily cres while he was working on it, soft top grey bundy 22r leaf sprung. but hey if ur all gonna slaughter me about it lets just blame the pain killers
if thats what you have been told then its just you being mis informed, you now know that the guy working at 4wd wreckers behind baily cres doesnt know what he is on about and he was actually working on a SWB
not here to flame you more to inform you
Evan
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:56 pm
by kykin
no no, i did see the bundy badge it was all there. but hey people do some crazy thing... aparently, like i said, drugs, hehe
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:26 am
by gotoy
There are a number of possibilities why some bundies have leaf springs;
1. Previous owner has converted from coil to springs
2. Import model from Japan with leafs, fitted with a different engine by previous owner.
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:44 pm
by droopypete
dogbreath_48 wrote:Don't be confused between bunderas (lux drivetrain, coil springs, SWB only - hard top and soft/fiberglass top)
I would like to comit this one to urban mythdom as well, there was no factory Toyota SWB, FRP, even if the the guy working at 4wd wreckers behind baily cres says there is (no offencekykin
)
I am keen for someone to prove me wrong.
Peter.
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:49 pm
by kykin
hahaha
i didnt say " cause he said so"
i said, or ment to say " cause i was there and saw it"
did the swb cruiser have an frp standard?
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:01 pm
by dogbreath_48
droopypete wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:Don't be confused between bunderas (lux drivetrain, coil springs, SWB only - hard top and soft/fiberglass top)
I would like to comit this one to urban mythdom as well, there was no factory Toyota SWB, FRP, even if the the guy working at 4wd wreckers behind baily cres says there is (no offencekykin
)
I am keen for someone to prove me wrong.
Peter.
Yeah i
think you're right, plenty of them about though!
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:17 pm
by r0ck_m0nkey
dogbreath_48 wrote:Yeah i think you're right, plenty of them about though!
The FRP was a MWB Landcruiser, not a SWB. There was a SWB Landcruiser which basically is the same body as the Bundera, but has the longer Landcruiser front end and larger Landcruiser running gear, which includes leaf springs and only available as a hard top.
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:28 pm
by kykin
r0ck_m0nkey wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:Yeah i think you're right, plenty of them about though!
The FRP was a MWB Landcruiser, not a SWB. There was a SWB Landcruiser which basically is the same body as the Bundera, but has the longer Landcruiser front end and larger Landcruiser running gear, which includes leaf springs and only available as a hard top.
hmmmmm, strugling to find any new info there........
the question being " was there any SWB frp's factory stock"
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:21 am
by r0ck_m0nkey
kykin wrote:hmmmmm, strugling to find any new info there........
the question being " was there any SWB frp's factory stock"
What info do you need? It looks to be all in this thread?
Bundera is a SWB, it was built and sold as the "light duty" Landcruiser. It has coil suspension all round, a smaller driveline very similar to a Hilux and a 4cyl Petrol (RJ70) or Diesel (LJ70). It was available as either a soft top or hard top, nothing else. Easily distinguished in the front end by the shorter bonnet, wider grill area and the corner blinkers being molded into the bodywork, not to mention the guards being less prominent. Later in it's life when it was dropped from the Australian market a 4 door version was released and the Prado name was first attached to this line of vehicle.
Then you step up to the "heavy duty" Landcruiser. It came in a SWB Hard Top (only), the body itself from the firewall back was the same as a Bundera, but the front end was the typical Landcruiser front. Underneath it had Leaf Springs and a 6cyl Petrol (FJ70) or 4cyl Diesel (BJ70). Looks an awful lot like a Bundera, but it isn't.
Next along you have the MWB Landcruiser, basically all the same as the SWB, but with a slightly longer wheelbase. This is the model which was available as an FRP, but also came as a Hard Top. This is the 73/74 Series Many people call it a SWB, but it's not, just as it's not a Bundera.
Fairly simple really.
There are already pictures on what a Bundera looks like in this thread.
This is a SWB Landcruiser Hardtop
This is a MWB Landcruiser FRP
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:57 pm
by kykin
r0ck_m0nkey wrote:kykin wrote:hmmmmm, strugling to find any new info there........
the question being " was there any SWB frp's factory stock"
It came in a SWB Hard Top (only)
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:18 pm
by dogbreath_48
I believe the FJ/BJ70's were available in soft tops - they were marketed here as a 'Fun truck', or similarly funny japanese name. Very sketchy memory for details - i could well be thinking of a bundy.
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:20 pm
by hulsty
you could also get bundys with that "fun top" not a factroy FRP though
cheers
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:26 pm
by droopypete
r0ck_m0nkey wrote:kykin wrote:hmmmmm, strugling to find any new info there........
the question being " was there any SWB frp's factory stock"
What info do you need? It looks to be all in this thread?
Bundera is a SWB, it was built and sold as the "light duty" Landcruiser. It has coil suspension all round, a smaller driveline very similar to a Hilux and a 4cyl Petrol (RJ70) or Diesel (LJ70). It was available as either a soft top or hard top, nothing else. Easily distinguished in the front end by the shorter bonnet, wider grill area and the corner blinkers being molded into the bodywork, not to mention the guards being less prominent. Later in it's life when it was dropped from the Australian market a 4 door version was released and the Prado name was first attached to this line of vehicle.
Then you step up to the "heavy duty" Landcruiser. It came in a SWB Hard Top (only), the body itself from the firewall back was the same as a Bundera, but the front end was the typical Landcruiser front. Underneath it had Leaf Springs and a 6cyl Petrol (FJ70) or 4cyl Diesel (BJ70). Looks an awful lot like a Bundera, but it isn't.
Next along you have the MWB Landcruiser, basically all the same as the SWB, but with a slightly longer wheelbase. This is the model which was available as an FRP, but also came as a Hard Top. This is the 73/74 Series Many people call it a SWB, but it's not, just as it's not a Bundera.
Fairly simple really.
There are already pictures on what a Bundera looks like in this thread.
Very informative and almost spot on
as dogbreath says the shorty land cruiser did come in a soft top and was very popular with the military, you also forget the PZ 5cyl diesel engine and the HZ 6cyl engine, and until I am proved otherwise the mid wheel base came as a soft (military) or FRP top only no hard top.
Peter.
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:27 pm
by r0ck_m0nkey
dogbreath_48 wrote:I believe the FJ/BJ70's were available in soft tops - they were marketed here as a 'Fun truck', or similarly funny japanese name. Very sketchy memory for details - i could well be thinking of a bundy.
Well that's obviously a cruiser, but would have to be pretty rare if they did get sold here.