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hey guys my mate just got some hid bulbs 4 his truck and they a bloody great but they where $350 and i was looking at them on ebay last night and they are really cheap just woundering if any one knows if they are good or not. cause i could get them for about 100 and they are still hi/lo just the same as his

I suggest you go to Dave (bushy555)

Top quality gear and good pricing too.

dont buy from newcomdigi on ebay. (sells HIDs and other things)

he tried to charge me extra fees once i had paid the total amount and wouldnt send my item.

finally got it and left bad feedback and he paid a mediator to sort out the issue between us


so newcomdigi is a PITA and avoid him

clm434 wrote:I suggest you go to Dave (bushy555)

Top quality gear and good pricing too.

x2 he knows HID

ofr57 wrote:

clm434 wrote:I suggest you go to Dave (bushy555)

Top quality gear and good pricing too.

x2 he knows HID

Damn straight he does

Steve at "on 4 to you" does some wicked HID's. 30/70 High low. 50/50 twin globe, and 80 watters are coming, he'll put them in your lights or supply lights, he comes on site and installs in metro Vic too.
He's a top bloke too.


Joel

i got some off ebay about a year ago before i heard of bushy or on4tou and they are shit. i got 6000k ones and they are more yellow than the standard commodore globes. they are just plain shit. and they still cost $260

I have 2 sets from Ebay.
Set one is H4 4300k and 50 watt
Set two is H1 6000k, 50 watt.
Both are very good quality and work extremely well.
pm me for the seller links
Cheers

wayne

I brought a set of Ebay, from China and they never turned up. By the time I lodged a dispute and sort a refund it was to late! lost my money and no HID for me
To date the only Ebay ripoff I have had.

PGS 4WD wrote:Steve at "on 4 to you" does some wicked HID's. 30/70 High low. 50/50 twin globe, and 80 watters are coming, he'll put them in your lights or supply lights, he comes on site and installs in metro Vic too.
He's a top bloke too.


Joel

I have delt with steve before and extremly helpful!!! Very nice guy and products are very good goes out of his way to help you out if needed!

chunderlicious wrote:i got some off ebay about a year ago before i heard of bushy or on4tou and they are shit. i got 6000k ones and they are more yellow than the standard commodore globes. they are just plain shit. and they still cost $260

Sure they gave you 6000k? Mine are e little too far on the blue side (35w)

I put bushy's 50w ballasts on the chinese 35w 6000k bulbs and now they are white with a tinge of yellow, so around 4300k.

clm434 wrote:

chunderlicious wrote:i got some off ebay about a year ago before i heard of bushy or on4tou and they are shit. i got 6000k ones and they are more yellow than the standard commodore globes. they are just plain shit. and they still cost $260

Sure they gave you 6000k? Mine are e little too far on the blue side (35w)

I put bushy's 50w ballasts on the chinese 35w 6000k bulbs and now they are white with a tinge of yellow, so around 4300k.

I reckon the 6000k's are a little too blue as well. I think I'd go for a 5000k next time. Cheap chinese 35w 6000k H1 HID's (in Cibie Super Oscars, and Cibie Oscars), next to 55/60w Philips halogen headlights:

ebay chinese hids?

well, yes and no... yes because i have bought a set and they work well... and no, because if they dont work, you will have to buy yourself another one, still ends being cheaper anyway.

and what has already being mentioned, get 4300/5000k... next step higher (6000k) and the colour temp turns blueish.

these are 6000k

clm434 wrote:

chunderlicious wrote:i got some off ebay about a year ago before i heard of bushy or on4tou and they are shit. i got 6000k ones and they are more yellow than the standard commodore globes. they are just plain shit. and they still cost $260

Sure they gave you 6000k? Mine are e little too far on the blue side (35w)

I put bushy's 50w ballasts on the chinese 35w 6000k bulbs and now they are white with a tinge of yellow, so around 4300k.

i thought that they werent but they have 6000k written on them so many times over everycomponent that ive just decided they are shit lights. i also had to wait 3 months after paying to recieve the item

Both times I've bought the cheapest ones I could find (so there was less to lose if all went pear shaped). They turned up within a week.
The H4's came with a good relay loom and work well. Its hard to get the balance between a high beam which is high enough and a low beam which doesnt dazzle. Whether its a quality issue or an issue with my reflector design, I dont know. Inserts for the spots are next.

now that we are on the subject....

how do ebay high/low bulbs work? i know there is some sort of mechanism that moves inside the bulb, but what moves and how?

udm wrote:now that we are on the subject....

how do ebay high/low bulbs work? i know there is some sort of mechanism that moves inside the bulb, but what moves and how?

I have ebay Hi/Lo H4. Mine use a magnet or similar mounted behind the globe. And it just changes the focal point in the lens. It dosent move much.

yeah my mates 1's r 6000k 35w and they r good i rang tjm on saturday the guy there is tryin to get me some 50 55w 1's so if he can they should be awesome

udm wrote:now that we are on the subject....

how do ebay high/low bulbs work? i know there is some sort of mechanism that moves inside the bulb, but what moves and how?

A warning, I have 3 mates who bought the sliding H4's of ebay, they all flucked up in under 2 months, 1 seller accepted the return and offered cash back then once he got em he sent another set out and refused to cash back...same guy listed above it was. So personally in spotties i reckon they'd.
be worth a shot but not in your primary lighting.

My mates are all back to Halogens inside there IPF inserts and happy again because there high beams are not stuck on.

NutterGQ wrote:My mates are all back to Halogens inside there IPF inserts and happy again because there high beams are not stuck on.

?????? What car? First time I've heard that one.

1 vx clubby, 2 gq's...stuck sliders are very common on these once I did some home work it was very regular.

Bushy's ramblings:


> how do ebay high/low bulbs work? i know there is some sort
> of mechanism that moves inside the bulb, but what moves
> and how?

There are three types of moving mechanisms that I know of.
1) Moving bubl in and out, conencted to the solenoid. Personally I reckon this would suck, since the amount of *shock* that is giving the bulb is heaps. Unfortunately tihs is in the few H4 kits that I had. One left in stock. Didn't know until I got them here.
Anyway, had some chinese chick try to tell me the other day 'good product, sliding bulb best. sliding shield no good. All fail. Our product not once fail. 2 dollar sucky sucky?'

2) Moving / sliding sheild - connected to solenoid. Prolly the best I reckon. The moving metal sheild creates the high and low beam - light pattern cut off points. Is what I chucked into my ute nearly four years ago, and so far have not needed to touch them. Cheap chinese crap back then and still works.

3) Tilting bulb - the bulb tilts from standard horizontal position to that of around 15 to 20 degrees which creates the lo and high beam pattern. Again, moving bulb --- shock factor --- not real good in my opionion.




As for the original question. Are cheap chinese kits worth it?
Welp, I have now dealt with 12 different chinese manufacturers. Some are good and some are just plain dodgy, as in, no quality control what so ever. As in dead ballasts leaving their factory...
At the moment, some dude is floggin $110.00 "50/55 watt" kits delivered.
I have bought one, and if it arives, and after I have a fiddle, will let everyone know. But how true is the 55 watt markings? Only a multimeter and a light meter can tell that.

On one hand:
If, for $110.00, you buy a kit and it arrives.
And if it works for 12 months and then dies....
Throw it out and grab another.

But on the other hand, if it doesnt arrive and if it doesnt work out of the box, then you've just done $110 which would have gone 15 kilometres in diesel money. (Diesel hit $1.96 south of Tamworth today)

I'm now up to around about the 120 odd kits that I've bought, played with, sold etc. Remember, I only do the HID thing as a lounge-room floor hobby. In all that time, all bar about 10 to 15 have been some sort of chinese origin. I have had a total feedback from customers of 8 ballasts that have died and two bulbs. Six of those ballasts were in the first batch of 20 that I bought, so from that some one could say that some of the manufacturers quality have improved a bit as time has gone on....

55 watt 5000k in XGT's that I video'd only last night at 6:30pm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vDm2qyFt9o

Chucking ballasts under water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1bh2KwS8IA

55w 5000k in Narva Bull lights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IetVnhKx-Ww

55w 5000k in Hella bull lights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISxibuxzLZQ

35w 6000k in IPF 900's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeRhQAFFdkc

My favourite: 7 bulb'd 240 Blitz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlbAk9MEFno

Bushy - I have a couple of Narva bull lights I would like to convert. Can you PM me a price?

Works great for me.

Done 4 kits here. a 35w ane 50w into my cars and not had a fault.

bushy555 wrote:Chucking ballasts under water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1bh2KwS8IA

Your game!

Putting your hand near that many volts in water.

Oh yeah, PM sent too.

well i went to arb today and got some hid's they cost me $330 but now if anything goes wrong with them i can take them back. i think the little extra is better than not knowing if your just burning your money

$110 delivered cheap kit arrived this arvo. So called 55 watt, 4300k.
Just did a 5 minute turn on stress test. Passed my typical startup turn on/turn off tests.

Here tis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAelx86w1y0

bushy555 wrote:$110 delivered cheap kit arrived this arvo. So called 55 watt, 4300k.
Just did a 5 minute turn on stress test. Passed my typical startup turn on/turn off tests.

Here tis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAelx86w1y0

my eyes hurty now

they seem like a great kit

bushy555 wrote:$110 delivered cheap kit arrived this arvo. So called 55 watt, 4300k.
Just did a 5 minute turn on stress test. Passed my typical startup turn on/turn off tests.

Here tis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAelx86w1y0

got any links to this seller?

bushy555 wrote:$110 delivered cheap kit arrived this arvo. So called 55 watt, 4300k.
Just did a 5 minute turn on stress test. Passed my typical startup turn on/turn off tests.

Here tis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAelx86w1y0

Are they difficult to wire up. I took off my PIAA large spotties when I removed the front bull bar. The standard 3 prong female plugs are still sitting there flush with the grille. The lights were fitted with H4's and the owner had a dipping switch also incorporated into the loom.

The wiring loom has relays as the wiring was upgraded by the first owner. Can the HID kits be fitted easily with a male 3 point plug and just hook up to the female plug or is it a whole new approach.