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Who owns a 100% off road 4x4(e.g. rock crawler, tube buggy,)

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:59 pm
by SIM79
Who owns a 100% off road 4x4?(e.g. rock crawler, tube buggy 4x4 or an unregistable 4x4 due to modifications)
Where can you legally use the 4x4 other than 4x4 comps and private property?
Does anyone own 100% off road 4x4 for just 4x4ing and doesn't compete in comps?
Where is best place to look for second hand crawlers/ tube buggies?

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:02 pm
by Tomo_89
well if its not registered then private property will be the only place you can drive it... have a look in the for sale section.. theres some in there from time to time

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:45 pm
by Santos
i'm prettry sure if you have a vehicle registered as a recreational vehicle its aloud to go on frazer island (even if its 2wd)

Pretty much any small 80's hatchback with big van tyres and relived of unnessecary weight and panels could do well offroad
Look at the Top Gear Africa special for example :D
(if you MUST drive though a boulder rather than around it then you may need more)

Re: Who owns a 100% off road 4x4(e.g. rock crawler, tube bug

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:53 pm
by humphey
SIM79 wrote:Who owns a 100% off road 4x4?(e.g. rock crawler, tube buggy 4x4 or an unregistable 4x4 due to modifications)
Where can you legally use the 4x4 other than 4x4 comps and private property?
Does anyone own 100% off road 4x4 for just 4x4ing and doesn't compete in comps?
Where is best place to look for second hand crawlers/ tube buggies?
what sort off dollars u lookin a spending i may have one for sale

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:33 am
by SIM79
Santos wrote:i'm prettry sure if you have a vehicle registered as a recreational vehicle its aloud to go on frazer island (even if its 2wd)
Does anyone know what max tyre size you can run on a 4x4 thats registered as a recreational 4x4 in QLD?

Re: Who owns a 100% off road 4x4(e.g. rock crawler, tube bug

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:34 am
by SIM79
humphey wrote:
SIM79 wrote:Who owns a 100% off road 4x4?(e.g. rock crawler, tube buggy 4x4 or an unregistable 4x4 due to modifications)
Where can you legally use the 4x4 other than 4x4 comps and private property?
Does anyone own 100% off road 4x4 for just 4x4ing and doesn't compete in comps?
Where is best place to look for second hand crawlers/ tube buggies?
what sort off dollars u lookin a spending i may have one for sale
PM sent.

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:18 am
by Shadow
SIM79 wrote:
Santos wrote:i'm prettry sure if you have a vehicle registered as a recreational vehicle its aloud to go on frazer island (even if its 2wd)
Does anyone know what max tyre size you can run on a 4x4 thats registered as a recreational 4x4 in QLD?
15mm bigger than standard

getting it registered as a recreational 4x4 (never heard of this) but it aint gonna happen.

QLD transport make some exemptions to vehicles who have a legitamate reason for needing to be on the road, ie, all terrain cranes, backhoes, etc. They are never going to give special dispensation so ythat you can go over and use it on frazer. Never in a million years.

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:21 pm
by Tomo_89
i've heard of people getting dirtbikes recreational rego so they could ride in state forests etc. but when i went to my local DOT they said i couldn't..

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:35 pm
by Gwagensteve
Rec Reg is common for dirt bikes in Vic, but it's not available for anything other than bikes. :bad-words:

Steve.

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:41 pm
by macca81
recreational vehicle reg is avail for just about anything in tas. we have an old VW beetle on 33s with RV rego, we can take it on any roads in nat parks that the 4wds can go on, and we can nominate pupblic roads to drive it on if we cant get the trailer as close to the track as we would like...

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:37 pm
by bogged
Gwagensteve wrote:Rec Reg is common for dirt bikes in Vic, but it's not available for anything other than bikes. :bad-words:

Steve.
and its gone up $10.00 :(

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:07 pm
by RUFF
Shadow wrote:
SIM79 wrote:
Santos wrote:i'm prettry sure if you have a vehicle registered as a recreational vehicle its aloud to go on frazer island (even if its 2wd)
Does anyone know what max tyre size you can run on a 4x4 thats registered as a recreational 4x4 in QLD?
15mm bigger than standard

getting it registered as a recreational 4x4 (never heard of this) but it aint gonna happen.

QLD transport make some exemptions to vehicles who have a legitamate reason for needing to be on the road, ie, all terrain cranes, backhoes, etc. They are never going to give special dispensation so ythat you can go over and use it on frazer. Never in a million years.
There was a full Tube Buggy running around at Offroad Expo this year with legitimate conditional rego on it. He is from Townsville i beleive.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:13 pm
by antt
RUFF wrote:
Shadow wrote:
SIM79 wrote:
Santos wrote:i'm prettry sure if you have a vehicle registered as a recreational vehicle its aloud to go on frazer island (even if its 2wd)
Does anyone know what max tyre size you can run on a 4x4 thats registered as a recreational 4x4 in QLD?
15mm bigger than standard

getting it registered as a recreational 4x4 (never heard of this) but it aint gonna happen.

QLD transport make some exemptions to vehicles who have a legitamate reason for needing to be on the road, ie, all terrain cranes, backhoes, etc. They are never going to give special dispensation so ythat you can go over and use it on frazer. Never in a million years.
There was a full Tube Buggy running around at Offroad Expo this year with legitimate conditional rego on it. He is from Townsville i beleive.
someone needs to interview the bloke or get him on here to find out what it involved

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:23 pm
by Rhett
Stue? In the Orange suzi based buggy? Is this the one you refering to ruff?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:51 pm
by Shadow
RUFF wrote:
Shadow wrote:
SIM79 wrote:
Santos wrote:i'm prettry sure if you have a vehicle registered as a recreational vehicle its aloud to go on frazer island (even if its 2wd)
Does anyone know what max tyre size you can run on a 4x4 thats registered as a recreational 4x4 in QLD?
15mm bigger than standard

getting it registered as a recreational 4x4 (never heard of this) but it aint gonna happen.

QLD transport make some exemptions to vehicles who have a legitamate reason for needing to be on the road, ie, all terrain cranes, backhoes, etc. They are never going to give special dispensation so ythat you can go over and use it on frazer. Never in a million years.
There was a full Tube Buggy running around at Offroad Expo this year with legitimate conditional rego on it. He is from Townsville i beleive.
It is not very hard to actually get the rego plate. It is almost impossible to get it legitamately.

There are at least 2 cars getting around the gold coast on conditional rego probably classed as rally vehicles(celica GT4 (import) and a lancer(looked like an import)), neither even come close to complying with the conditions of thier registration.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:45 pm
by bru21
looked into it a while back. rec rego is not any use in QLD as you are only allowed in 3 state forests miles away. A few trials bikes in the club were registered this way.

I have just read the conditional vehicle section quickly. It appears it is possible to register a buggy - giving all 3rd party insurance benefits. It allows for golf buggy rego too!

http://www.support.transport.qld.gov.au ... 815_es.pdf

http://www.support.transport.qld.gov.au ... ms/QF3815/

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Re ... _vehicles/

I think it looks possible, and may allow access to landcrusier park etc

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:26 am
by RUFF
Rhett wrote:Stue? In the Orange suzi based buggy? Is this the one you refering to ruff?
I may have assumed too much on this. When we were up there someone else said there was a Buggy getting around up there with conditional rego. I only caught a glimps of it once and from memory yes it was orange. I didnt speak to the guy. I assumed it was the guy from Townsville that has successfully registered a buggy based on i beleive a Cheezy tube frame.

It may be a different guy. The one in Townsville is registered as a offroad utility vehicle i beleive.

PS,I could even be wrong on the location. Im not sure if it was Rockhampton or Townsville but Sam from Haultech has had a few discussions with the guy over the phone.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:23 pm
by SIM79
Shadow wrote:
SIM79 wrote:
Santos wrote:i'm prettry sure if you have a vehicle registered as a recreational vehicle its aloud to go on frazer island (even if its 2wd)
Does anyone know what max tyre size you can run on a 4x4 thats registered as a recreational 4x4 in QLD?
15mm bigger than standard

getting it registered as a recreational 4x4 (never heard of this) but it aint gonna happen.

QLD transport make some exemptions to vehicles who have a legitamate reason for needing to be on the road, ie, all terrain cranes, backhoes, etc. They are never going to give special dispensation so ythat you can go over and use it on frazer. Never in a million years.
I have seen heaps of Queenland comp trucks running 37s and they have rego. I am sure QLD comp trucks have recreation rego but will have a definate answer tomorrow.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:49 pm
by Tomo_89
just get it rego'd before you do the mods :armsup: dont go driving past any police cars though ;)

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:53 pm
by Surfection
RUFF wrote:
Rhett wrote:Stue? In the Orange suzi based buggy? Is this the one you refering to ruff?
I may have assumed too much on this. When we were up there someone else said there was a Buggy getting around up there with conditional rego. I only caught a glimps of it once and from memory yes it was orange. I didnt speak to the guy. I assumed it was the guy from Townsville that has successfully registered a buggy based on i beleive a Cheezy tube frame.

It may be a different guy. The one in Townsville is registered as a offroad utility vehicle i beleive.

PS,I could even be wrong on the location. Im not sure if it was Rockhampton or Townsville but Sam from Haultech has had a few discussions with the guy over the phone.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:16 pm
by GRPABT1
Tomo_89 wrote:just get it rego'd before you do the mods :armsup: dont go driving past any police cars though ;)
What do you think we do now? It's not the cops you have to really worry about, they're too busy picking on the poor little ricer brigade down the local haunts. The Transport goons are the ones that sting us, but still up here at least we get it fairly easy.

Sim I think you'll find most of those comp trucks sporting 37's are very similar, just running the gauntlet.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:18 pm
by Micka
SIM79 wrote:
Shadow wrote:
SIM79 wrote:
Santos wrote:i'm prettry sure if you have a vehicle registered as a recreational vehicle its aloud to go on frazer island (even if its 2wd)
Does anyone know what max tyre size you can run on a 4x4 thats registered as a recreational 4x4 in QLD?
15mm bigger than standard

getting it registered as a recreational 4x4 (never heard of this) but it aint gonna happen.

QLD transport make some exemptions to vehicles who have a legitamate reason for needing to be on the road, ie, all terrain cranes, backhoes, etc. They are never going to give special dispensation so ythat you can go over and use it on frazer. Never in a million years.
I have seen heaps of Queenland comp trucks running 37s and they have rego.
Registered and Road Worthy are two totally different things.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:26 pm
by jimbo jones
you can regeter anything as long as you know somone willing to take the risk may cost you more than $31.50 for it though

jimbo

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:38 pm
by STIKA
RUFF wrote:
Rhett wrote:Stue? In the Orange suzi based buggy? Is this the one you refering to ruff?
I may have assumed too much on this. When we were up there someone else said there was a Buggy getting around up there with conditional rego. I only caught a glimps of it once and from memory yes it was orange. I didnt speak to the guy. I assumed it was the guy from Townsville that has successfully registered a buggy based on i beleive a Cheezy tube frame.

It may be a different guy. The one in Townsville is registered as a offroad utility vehicle i beleive.

PS,I could even be wrong on the location. Im not sure if it was Rockhampton or Townsville but Sam from Haultech has had a few discussions with the guy over the phone.
its from rocky

I have never actualy seen this vehicle

but here is the link to the thread

http://www.rockcrawlingqld.com/Rock/e10 ... c.php?18.0

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:29 pm
by SIM79
I found out today that comp trucks in Queensland are registered as a competition vehicle which gives then limited road access, this sound the same as a recreational rego but its not.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:03 pm
by RUFF
SIM79 wrote:I found out today that comp trucks in Queensland are registered as a competition vehicle which gives then limited road access, this sound the same as a recreational rego but its not.
Really?? I dont know a single competitor other than the one i mentioned above(who i dont think has ever competed anywhere anyway) that has anything other than normal rego. I have never heard of "comp rego" before.

Who told you they have comp rego?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:38 pm
by WICKED
RUFF wrote: I dont know a single competitor that has anything other than normal rego.
I know of a few Classic Rego'd comp trucks.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:04 pm
by SIM79
RUFF wrote:
SIM79 wrote:I found out today that comp trucks in Queensland are registered as a competition vehicle which gives then limited road access, this sound the same as a recreational rego but its not.
Really?? I dont know a single competitor other than the one i mentioned above(who i dont think has ever competed anywhere anyway) that has anything other than normal rego. I have never heard of "comp rego" before.

Who told you they have comp rego?
Cameron Blackmore who was a navi for Mat Bulger.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:17 pm
by STIKA
where and what events is he competing in.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:06 pm
by RUFF
SIM79 wrote:Cameron Blackmore who was a navi for Mat Bulger.
He is on drugs. There is no such thing as Comp Rego. He may have used some other form of rego that he prob shouldnt have legaly used but there is defianatly no such thing as comp rego in QLD.