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				Vitara or Sierra??
				Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:30 pm
				by SHE_DEVIL_4B
				i wanna buy a auto suzuki but i dunno which is better a vitara or sierra? 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:04 am
				by OVERKILL ENG
				If you want an auto you will have to go a Vitara.I think the first mod should be a SAS hey antt. 

 
			
					
				Re: Vitara or Sierra??
				Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:56 am
				by grimbo
				SHE_DEVIL_4B wrote:i wanna buy a auto suzuki but i dunno which is better a vitara or sierra? 

 
well besides the auto issue as Sierras don't come with an auto in Australia. What do you mean by better? Better on road as a daily driver. Better as a light 4wd. Better as a full on comp vehicle. Need a little more info on what you mean by "better"
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:44 am
				by greg
				You could order a 660 Auto Jimny (Sierra) from Japan... Apparently they are about $5,500 imported  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:20 pm
				by SHE_DEVIL_4B
				i meant better as i light 4wd it really doesnt have to be auto, ive always have had toyotas i want a change!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:36 pm
				by cj
				Well if you go Vit it has a Toy auto in it. The autos are pretty strong but if you want hardcore a Sierra is better but if you want nicer on the road and reasonably capable off then the Vit would be fine and they are getting pretty cheap.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:44 pm
				by Guy
				cj wrote:Well if you go Vit it has a Toy auto in it. The autos are pretty strong but if you want hardcore a Sierra is better but if you want nicer on the road and reasonably capable off then the Vit would be fine and they are getting pretty cheap.
A Toy auto ?? they are a TH180 .. same as a tri-matic ...
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:16 pm
				by Beastmavster
				If you're only talking about beach work and light trails the Vitara will be fine, but does need a little more ground clearance as a starting point, before you damage the tank and other underbody stuff.
They can be lifted up to the levels of a sierra (after all the chassis is similar enough that with sufficient effort most parts can either be swapped or improvements beyond Sierra spec can be made, but the problem is the cost of doing so.
In the end a big enough cheque book removes all obstacles...
What sorta spec was your hilux in?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:04 pm
				by antt
				OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:If you want an auto you will have to go a Vitara.I think the first mod should be a SAS hey antt. 

 
i agree 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:15 pm
				by christover1
				love_mud wrote:cj wrote:Well if you go Vit it has a Toy auto in it. The autos are pretty strong but if you want hardcore a Sierra is better but if you want nicer on the road and reasonably capable off then the Vit would be fine and they are getting pretty cheap.
A Toy auto ?? they are a TH180 .. same as a tri-matic ...
 
early 3speeds were tri-matics, but the 4speed electronic controlled type is different (tho I dont know what brand) christover
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:47 pm
				by SAWZALL
				If more than half your driving is on road = Vitara
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:14 pm
				by RB zook
				if ya want to pull the chicks get a sierra 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:01 pm
				by SHE_DEVIL_4B
				yeah most  will be on road for now.
i am a chick so i think ill go with the vitara something like a 94 GLX but i think i would have more fun with a manual
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:07 pm
				by Beastmavster
				SHE_DEVIL_4B wrote:yeah most  will be on road for now.
i am a chick so i think ill go with the vitara something like a 94 GLX but i think i would have more fun with a manual
Never ever EVER buy an auto... there are never enough good reasons to justify buying a slow gutless heap of sh1@t
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:11 pm
				by SHE_DEVIL_4B
				i am getting manual just not sure which to get a hard top or soft top i will end up going off road though...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:35 pm
				by christover1
				join or visit a local 4wd club, check out what works and what dont, best way to  make a choice, christover
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:52 pm
				by SHE_DEVIL_4B
				christover1,
i think that may be a good idea hey im kinda new to all this so i think it might help me out just a bit
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:02 am
				by Beastmavster
				The NSW Suzy club has quite a few vitaras and they get discounts on parts from suppliers for membership.....
Plus, they've stuffed around before and they know what works and what doesnt... which really saves a packet in the long run.
I think you'll find the vitara capable enough if you're not competition hardcore...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:40 am
				by SHE_DEVIL_4B
				Sweeet they got a website or something so i can check them out??
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:30 am
				by christover1
				SHE_DEVIL_4B wrote:Sweeet they got a website or something so i can check them out??
http://www.suzuki4wd.com.au/index.asp 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:13 am
				by thaoldman
				she_deveil_4B, .....send Squik a  pm (private message) from this board. She also belongs to the NSW zook club and would most proberly recommend that you get a Jimny.
Or turn up to our next meeting to see what we are like.
Next meeting is on Wednesday, 10 March 2004 8pm
Meeting Point : Ermington Community Hall at Ermington (near Silverwater)
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:09 pm
				by Beastmavster
				thaoldman wrote:she_deveil_4B, .....send Squik a  pm (private message) from this board. She also belongs to the NSW zook club and would most proberly recommend that you get a Jimny.
But a Jimny may be a bit expensive depending on her budget..... we know Squik is somewhat biased too.
Jimnies face their own little hurdles to overcome.
A few more questions.... budget, accessories requied (eg P/S A/C as well as lockers) and hard top/soft top/ LWB wagon?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:02 am
				by SHE_DEVIL_4B
				i wanna spend round $6000 - $11000
but something that is easy to fix cause i know ill roll it or definatly smash it, ive been told from the way i drive, to get a hard top just incase
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:53 am
				by moose
				SHE_DEVIL_4B wrote:i wanna spend round $6000 - $11000
but something that is easy to fix cause i know ill roll it or definatly smash it, ive been told from the way i drive, to get a hard top just incase
after that comment , consider 2 things ...
1.... soft top , less panels too repair !!!
2.... soft top , less panels too protect your brain !!!! 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:00 pm
				by Beastmavster
				It's sounding like Sierra.... panels are cheaper 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:42 pm
				by SHE_DEVIL_4B
				cause if i do dent it or anything i wont bother fixing it unless its real bad so go with a sierra?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:50 pm
				by christover1
				SHE_DEVIL_4B wrote:cause if i do dent it or anything i wont bother fixing it unless its real bad so go with a sierra?
sierras are much cheaper to repair, yes
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:22 am
				by SHE_DEVIL_4B
				so what would be a good year model sierra and at wat price?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:49 am
				by christover1
				SHE_DEVIL_4B wrote:so what would be a good year model sierra and at wat price?
not  up on prices, havent looked lately. but after 1988 Sierras became wide tracks, more stable and internal fittings, seats and things are better quality, with inertia reel belts etc. All Wide Tracks (WT) have 1300 motor standard.
after about 1984/85 to 88 was the narrow track 1300 (NT)
before 84 were the 1.0 litre motors, with slightly lower gearing to suit, and very basic inside, these are very cheap.
also there is long wheel base (LWB) versions with 1300 and 1 litre motors. these are rare, and many people want them, they climb better and have better load carrying.
Maruti Utes with WT and 1.0 litre motors(bit rare, bit poor in build quality)
most parts from all sierras are interchangeable, but motors and diffs in 1.0 litre are not easily changed. christover
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:55 am
				by stumped
				i picked up my sierra for $3500, it's an 88 WT... i've seen a few around that are cheaper, but not in my area.
$3-4K ya can get a decent one of that age. look thru the for sale section, there's a couple in there i think...