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M&M Custom Engineering Toyota Hi Steer

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:40 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
Hi Steer Arm Kits to suit Toyota Hilux and Landcruisers

The arms are CNC machined from billet for ultimate strength.

Complete kit includes heavy duty draglink and tie rod made out of 32mm OD 4140 with quality ball joints. Kit can also be supplied with an adapter to suit the IFS Hilux/4runner pitman arm.

Complete Kit is $1270+gst.

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:52 pm
by POS
Nice work guys!!

They look like the best set of High steer arms i have seen!!!

How much just for the High Steer arms (no drag link and ball joints).

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:31 am
by ausyota
Mmm nice.
And chomemoly rods too, sweet.
I will want a kit for sure later on in the year when I do my SAS.
If I had the money now I would buy it with my widetrack kit.
But it will have to wait for now.
Paul.

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:31 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
M&M Hi Steer is only sold as a complete kit.

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:16 pm
by spazbot
sweet looking arms mick

hi steer

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:41 pm
by MUD80D
so when are you going to make hi steer for an 80/100#

Re: hi steer

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:15 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
MUD80D wrote:so when are you going to make hi steer for an 80/100#


We are currently testing a hi steer set up for an 80 series. As soon as its ready to be sold we will post it up here.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:08 am
by XXXL80
i'd be keen on the 80 hysteer kits!!!

maybe a group buy on these?? anyone??[/quote]

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:11 pm
by slowhilux
Im in for an 80 hi steer....one question tho, will it stop the drag link rubbing on the control arms and hi-pinion when its getsa a flexin'!!! :bad-words: :bad-words:

Phill

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:25 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
The 80 series hi steer will move the draglink and tierod to the front of the diff.

I will try and get some pics of the arm.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:46 pm
by slowhilux
Nice, pics would be great!!

Phill

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:51 pm
by RUFF
One question as i have allready seen a set of these fitted to a hilux. Why is the flat section that the tierod hole is machined on the same plane as the top of the knuckle. It should be flat when fitted so the tierod points straight up and down.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:57 pm
by RUFF
Other than this question these arms looked great. I also like the idea of both arms having only one hole and the intermidiate steering link conecting to the drag link. This allows for a lot more flex with less bind.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:24 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
The reason they are flat is as you explained with the draglink going into the tie rod it allows alot more wheel travel without the ends binding. The tie rod end angle only changes very slightly from full lock to full lock without any binding, therefore it isnt necessary to machine the top on an angle. If the arms had a double hole on the passengers side it would be absolutely necessary to have them machined on an angle so the draglink doesnt bind when articulating.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:26 pm
by RUFF
M&M Custom Engineering wrote:The reason they are flat is as you explained with the draglink going into the tie rod it allows alot more wheel travel without the ends binding. The tie rod end angle only changes very slightly from full lock to full lock without any binding, therefore it isnt necessary to machine the top on an angle. If the arms had a double hole on the passengers side it would be absolutely necessary to have them machined on an angle so the draglink doesnt bind when articulating.


Cool.

What tierod ends are you using?

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:28 pm
by ausyota
RUFF wrote:Other than this question these arms looked great. I also like the idea of both arms having only one hole and the intermidiate steering link conecting to the drag link. This allows for a lot more flex with less bind.

Hmm sounds interesting I hadnt noticed the single hole untill you posted that Ruff.
Can someone post a pic of the steering fitted up to a lux?

Also another Question I have is can a steering dampner be fitted to the High steer?
I have noticed that a lot of people running High steer dont run them.
Is one necisary or is it just a personal preferance?
Paul.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:28 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
a combination of 60 and 80 series, all of them are 23mm male threads

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:35 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
ausyota wrote:
RUFF wrote:Other than this question these arms looked great. I also like the idea of both arms having only one hole and the intermidiate steering link conecting to the drag link. This allows for a lot more flex with less bind.

Hmm sounds interesting I hadnt noticed the single hole untill you posted that Ruff.
Can someone post a pic of the steering fitted up to a lux?

Also another Question I have is can a steering dampner be fitted to the High steer?
I have noticed that a lot of people running High steer dont run them.
Is one necisary or is it just a personal preferance?
Paul.


Generally personal preference. Steering dampeners are normally a band aid fix for a different problem.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:42 pm
by ausyota
So can one be fitted?
Mick do you have a pic of the high steering fitted on a lux?
Paul.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:43 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
:D

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:46 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
:D

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:47 pm
by MissDrew
M&M Custom Engineering wrote:Generally personal preference. Steering dampeners are normally a band aid fix for a different problem.
I have to agree with you here, I have tried mine with and without, there is NO differance. I still run it but only because I can.


Mick why are they 2 piece and not 1?

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:49 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
We use different materials for each part of the arm.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:58 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
ausyota wrote:So can one be fitted?
Mick do you have a pic of the high steering fitted on a lux?
Paul.


Sam just posted a few pics for you.

Our products are also available through Overkill Engineering.

We can make up some mounts so you can fit a steering dampener if you want one.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:48 pm
by RUFF
M&M Custom Engineering wrote:Generally personal preference. Steering dampeners are normally a band aid fix for a different problem.


The other reason some fit Dampers is when running larger diameter tyres on the street that are generaly fitted to beadlocked rims so cant be balanced easy.


I have a Band Aid :)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:25 am
by bubs
M&M Custom Engineering wrote:M&M Hi Steer is only sold as a complete kit.


sure you wont change your mind, i already have chromo rods :?:

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:18 am
by spazbot
but the rods you need are not the same as std crossover rods, you needs ones like the std 80 series setup

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:13 pm
by bubs
spazbot wrote:but the rods you need are not the same as std crossover rods, you needs ones like the std 80 series setup


i know, still want just the arms

also, how little lift can you get away with

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:55 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
bubs wrote:
M&M Custom Engineering wrote:M&M Hi Steer is only sold as a complete kit.


sure you wont change your mind, i already have chromo rods :?:


They will all have to be modified as they will be totally different lengths to our kit.

Sell your rods to 83lux and buy our complete kit. :D

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:57 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
bubs wrote:
spazbot wrote:but the rods you need are not the same as std crossover rods, you needs ones like the std 80 series setup


i know, still want just the arms

also, how little lift can you get away with


You wont have any issues with the tierod or draglink hitting the chassis. Overkill Engineering have fitted quite a few on solid axle swaps of different heights and has never reported any issues.