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How To: Fitting TJ Flares
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:01 pm
by neil_se
My standard flares were starting to look like crushed drink cans especially after my comp last weekend, so it was time to fit the TJ flares i've had sitting in the garage. I'm not a fan of using front TJ flares on the front so i got 2 sets of rears.
Before:
Start by removing the standard guards. If yours are as crushed as mine you'll need to hammer them out to get to the brackets. There's 5-6 screws and one 10mm nut for each flare. If you're lucky the bolts will come out whole. My front flares had been lifted by the previous owner so most came out fine, i only had to drill out one rear that rounded out.
This will leave you with the flare bracket remaining. My front was tek screwed in which saved a lot of work.
Trim the back the inside of the TJ flares so they can sit flush with the body. Sit them over the flare brackets so they sit in the same position all round.
Mark the position with wax or chalk. Also mark on the flares where to cut the extra length off front and rear, and you might have to trim around the indicator if they sit over like mine.
Using an angle grinder, grind back the spot welds that attach the flare bracket until you see the outline. Then gently lever the flare using a screwdriver or chisel to break the welds.
Grind back the welds until they're flush with the panel and paint over to prevent rust. Clamp the flares back into position and mark through the flare holes onto the body for screw positions.
Drill out the holes and fit the flares with tek screws. Done!
Bushwackers might look nicer but for $50 these will do. I still need to round off the edges of the flares and trim them in the middle level with the body or sliders. They'll be resprayed when I spray my car in the next few weeks.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:54 pm
by Gwagensteve
I always wondered what a Sierra would look like with rear TJ flares on the front. That looks 946586058405bazilliiontygazillion times better than those f$^#ing horrible TJ fronts people try and jam on the front of a sierra.
Good thread neil_se
Steve.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:36 pm
by want33s
Would look good if you moved the side repeater to post 90 model position instead of half covering with the flare.
Jas.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:15 pm
by GRPABT1
Gwagensteve wrote:I always wondered what a Sierra would look like with rear TJ flares on the front. That looks 946586058405bazilliiontygazillion times better than those f$^#ing horrible TJ fronts people try and jam on the front of a sierra.
Good thread neil_se
Steve.
I was thinking this just the other day when I saw a dodgey pic of a zook with rear tj's all round in a magazine. Does look heaps better but I'm still umdercided yet...
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:31 pm
by neil_se
I couldn't agree more, i hate the TJ fronts (i've got 2 sitting in the garage). There's a reason the bushwacker sets use modified rears all the way round. It would be better with the indicators moved, i might do it when i respray (and it'll be more legal rather than having them partly covered). Should i trim the flares level to the checkerplate on the side? I will be making new solid sliders someday soon.
I couldn't find any decent threads here or in the US about TJ rears all round so i thought people might want to see.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:52 pm
by GRPABT1
Can you take some pics from side on and from the front?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:17 pm
by bazooked
Gwagensteve wrote:I always wondered what a Sierra would look like with rear TJ flares on the front. That looks 946586058405bazilliiontygazillion times better than those f$^#ing horrible TJ fronts people try and jam on the front of a sierra.
Good thread neil_se
Steve.
dont remember my old zook?
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:36 am
by Gwagensteve
That bottom photo is the only one I remember of your car and I hadn't made the connection.
I like the smooth look a lot more than the bushwacker pocketed style which look a lot more 1980's.
Neil_se - I do think they need a trim to make them look a it less bulky.
Steve.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:00 am
by neil_se
I'll move the GFs car and get some more pics today. I need to get a jigsaw and file to neaten and smooth the edges. I only had a metal cutoff wheel yesterday which just melts everything.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:36 am
by Gwagensteve
Try a flap disc on the grinder. If you use a jigsaw you'll be up for a lot of filing/sanding to smooth out the cuts.
Steve.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:30 am
by neil_se
Ah true true, i've got an old flap disc around here somewhere that would be perfect.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:44 am
by joeblow
Gwagensteve wrote:I always wondered what a Sierra would look like with rear TJ flares on the front. That looks 946586058405bazilliiontygazillion times better than those f$^#ing horrible TJ fronts people try and jam on the front of a sierra.
Good thread neil_se
Steve.
breath deeply little man...breath deeply.....settle down.....
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:10 pm
by GRPABT1
Yeah I reckon they'd look hot with a bit of a trim on the very outside vertical edge to make them look a little more "petite" so to speak. And with a bit of a paint.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:28 pm
by Bentzook
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:34 pm
by Squik
Wow... how did you get that red box to fit so well? Did you have to trim the guards much? Is it held on by pop-rivets or silicon? Does it come in any other colours? Can I get a box like that for my wiper shims???
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:31 pm
by built4thrashing
Hey Bentzook.
you just need to widen the front bar to the same width as the flares and it would almost look factory.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:04 am
by GRPABT1
Bentzook wrote:![Image](http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/Bentzook/IMG_7476.jpg)
What's the point of widened flares if your tyres still stick out past them?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:50 pm
by over land 4x4
if someone is looking for cheap tj flares to do this then have a look here
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... :IT&ih=014
thanks
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:49 pm
by Bentzook
GRPABT1 wrote:Bentzook wrote:![Image](http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/Bentzook/IMG_7476.jpg)
What's the point of widened flares if your tyres still stick out past them?
Since this photo last year, I`ve taken out the wide forerunner diff and replaced it with a Bunderra diff, bringing the overall wideth back, the tyres are now only 30mm outside the guard and will get covered by a side rail exo. The wheel spacers on the front Hilux diff will get removed aswell, bringing them into line with the rear.
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:58 pm
by Bentzook
Th e TJ flares were put on using Nutserts, a very easy way to install flares on thin sheet metal.
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:59 pm
by Roctoy
Hey Marcus, did you get those brake caliper brackets to work in the end? I cut one corner of one up here and it fitted (bracket still had 3 bolts holding it on, that's one up on a factory mount!
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:44 pm
by Bentzook
They were difficult but a little grinding and all 4 bolts mounted up
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:53 pm
by neil_se
I used tek screws because i couldn't get behind the panel for most of the screws and i wanted them to be easily removable.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:02 pm
by Gwagensteve
You don't need to get behind the panel to use nutserts/rivnuts.
They're grouse. My kit gets lots of use.
Steve.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:03 am
by GRPABT1
maybe you should do a how to on using them?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:31 am
by neil_se
Indeed, i've never used them before.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:29 am
by Gwagensteve
http://avdel-global.com/en/products/thr ... tsert.html
This shows a pneumatic installation tool. I have a manual tool that's really like a rivet gun
http://www.daggertools.com/m5_view_item ... tem=DT1440
like this. Most engineering suppliers have them. there are also lots of cheaper ways of doing it too like doing up bolts in them to close them up etc.
Steve.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:05 am
by just cruizin'
Can do the bolt trick but it doesn't always work as the nutsert will spin as you try and do up the bolt thus you don't get the right clamping force. But they are a great item for this type of work
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:10 am
by DeWsE
Is that the Zook that can defy gravity?
It had to be said!
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:23 pm
by Bentzook
DeWsE wrote:Is that the Zook that can defy gravity?
It had to be said!
Gravitron. Mark II