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What is better 60 series power steering or genuine 40 ser

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:48 am
by AZZA'S HJ47
hi all just a question heard a few mixed results about 40 series power steering being rather eratic compared to a 60 series replacement which one is best :2gunfire:

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:08 am
by shorty_f0rty
my personal opinion is to go the 60 series upgrade:

pros:
it removes the bell crank on the front crossmember,
removes the drag link that runs along the side of the chassis rail under the shock(usually rubs the shock when you lift)
requires upgrading swival arms to 75 arms (stronger)
requires upgrading the tie rod and drag link to the thicker 75 series rods
possibly better geometry when moving the front diff forward
a good excuse to upgrade shock towers to F250 towers
could upgrade to a 60 or 75 steering column moving wiper controls to the steering column (personal preference)
You can use your existing power steering pump

cons:
requires a 55 steering column if you want to keep the 40 steering in the cab which are getting harder to find
requires drilling, crushtubes and backing plate when mounting the new box (not a simple swap)
requires notching of the inside webbing on your shock tower to allow the intermediate shaft to pass by
requires removal of shock tower to do above (pain in the ass)
if you mount the 60 box and then move your diff forward it could affect steering geomtry adversly
cost for bits (i have probably spent about $800 total on the upgrade, including a better non leaking PS pump but sold my 40 powersteer box,pump and column for $600)
depending on your lift you might need to swap the 60 pitman arm with one from a 70 (more $$ and sometimes hard to find)

but once you've done it i reckon its well worth it.. MY 40 power steer used to bind up in places and I think because of the better geomtry the 60 gear is less likely to do so.

this is just my 5c worth. pics of my upgrade process are here:
http://www.phat42.com/gallery/v/the40/60steering/ and my build thread: http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic139548.php

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:54 pm
by rock hopper
i have a factory 40 series p/s box . i would sell it to u if u offered the right money ....
they are getting hard to find ...
one came in last week in a wreck .....

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:04 pm
by AZZA'S HJ47
i already have a 40 series power steering box just wondering what other people have in mind with these conversions. however i do require a 40 series power steering colum if it is cheep enough.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:05 pm
by AngryElmo
i have the 40 standard power stering, and its fine had some problems at first cos of extended shacklem but put some castor wedges in it and its good now, i got other problems but not to do with the steer

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:11 pm
by pcman
standard power steer is ok for up to 33 or 34" tyres but any bigger and you have to limit the left hand turn lots or you scrub the tyre out on the steering arm


ive gota my old box and steering colum sitting here that ill get around to ebaying oneday soon

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:41 pm
by steering australia
both steering boxes are as good as each other.when you say erattic wat are you referring to.are you having problems with your steering getting hard at times or just wondering all over the road.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:46 pm
by AZZA'S HJ47
Just asking what people think, and no i dont have any problems with my steering thanks anyways :2gunfire: