Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Here is a pic of the new cast 5 inch dropped Nissan arms we have just produced. these replace the standard arms and correct caster etc without the need for caster correction plates.

Nick Mannell is running these in his new comp rig (not yet finished) and they are said to have out flexed his old 5 link setup that was in his old GU.

For a full run down and price etc ring Ryan on 0408252589

They look pretty sweet So Guts or Ryan duz this mean Snake Racing has these in stock or are there delays in these things gettin made............



And has there been testin dunn to test for weakness's in the castings .....


I'LL just ring hey



A1

IM INTERESTED!

nice bling blue too like the rest of my stuff
do u guys have engineering certs for these?

This is as much as I know about these arms, best to ring ryan if you are really interested.

I know he has certificates on his high steer arms as well on some other stuff, I don`t know about these.

yous have high steer for GQ's as well?

what do u guys do to lift the panhard up to be parallel?

so they correct Caster on what spring lifts? about 6 inch i take it, and anyhting over that you can use bushes?

cool. about time someone built something like that, really.....

Nick Mannell is running these in his new comp rig (not yet finished) and they are said to have out flexed his old 5 link setup that was in his old GU.



This is the only thing that i dont understand how the hell will these arms out flex a 5 link front end (unless u un bolt the left side) ...........as wont this still bind in the usual spot as the standard arms ........i understand that there is gunna be alot angle and stress on the pin bush on the chassis ...................but that isnt the prob is it ??? its where the axle tries to cork screw itself between the axle end radius arm mounts true or false .......................


Guts if this is true would u ask Ryan to get Nick to take some pics.........because if it is true the pics would work betta than some1s word ........

Cheers DAN

Depends how soft the bushes in the arms are and or who's 5 link they compare them to.
SAM

I guess ( i know where ya comin from )..............


Pics still would be good to prove the point ........

the calbah 5-link has alot of bind built into it anyways. these arms would be good with the bushes sam overton is making.
dan, try heating and bending your stock arms like the rangie guys do? why hasn't anyone tried this?

Another option a few people have done with great success is to put the standard arms on top of the diff.
SAM

This is all I know about the arms as this is all I have been told, like I said if you need more info including price just ring ryan.

Guts wrote:This is all I know about the arms as this is all I have been told, like I said if you need more info including price just ring ryan.

for the fabrication challanged (IE Me) they look sweet ...

I have been in contact with Ryan, and he told me that the only pics they have go were on a rig with 4 inch lift, the fron out flexed the rear and the shocks on the front were too short so the pics are worthless, he also told me he has trialed them on 7inch lift and drove like a charm, cant wait for them to be released, they have made 2 sets of protos to date!

verrrry interesting, should fix the caster, should fix the clearance issues with drop brackets but if the chassis mount to diff mount angle hasnt changed [with respect to vertical ] then it won't fix the wobbles.
just my thoughts...what do ya's reckon?

edit: should also give back the down travel you lose with a lift.

they have made 2 sets of protos to date!

This looks like it might be one of those products where the cat has been let out of the bag a bit early (before proper testing/costing etc) and everyone will be eagerly awaiting them for ages before they can get there hot little hands on em!

I spose they don't have any idea on cost yet hey?

they look cranked at the diff end to fix caster, but are they cranked at the chassis end as well. i can't quite tell from the photo.
they should be cranked at the chassis end to make the bush sit neutral (no bind/no squashing).
can you heat nissan arms and bend them like rover arms??
just a thought.
(flame suit on)
david

Anyone got a std arm that they can take a pic of and post just to campare the 2.
Had mine off the other week but didn't really pay that much attention to them.

can you heat nissan arms and bend them like rover arms??
just a thought.
(flame suit on)
david

Standard arms can be cold pressed (100tonne)
Do both at same time.

Bazzle

I don`t think you can bend the stock Nissan arms as they are made of cast iron, they will crack if you try and you don`t need a 100 tonne press you can do it with a 20.

standard nissan arms are cast steel not cast iron

Guts wrote:I don`t think you can bend the stock Nissan arms as they are made of cast iron, they will crack if you try and you don`t need a 100 tonne press you can do it with a 20.

sooooo, you can't bend them, but you can if you use a 20-tonne press instead of a 100??

Weve bent a few in a 100 tonne press for Safari work. 100 tonne is used for speed and accuracy. Both arms at same time.
Arms are made of steel.

Bazzle

For anybody wanting to see these arms or to speak to ryan about them they will be on Nick Mannells new rig at the Darling Harbour 4x4 show in just under 2 weeks time.

Did anyone get an idea of the price of these from the 4x4 show?

Saw them there - cool display with the stock ones just underneath for comparison - but there were too many people for me to be bothered waiting to ask a price.

I had a good talk with Nick Mannel, about them, at this present time they are looking to be around the $1400 mark, just to warn you, this is not a fixed price, it is just a figure that he gave me. THe ones on Nick's truck so far have set them back about 7 grand to get them to where they are now, he was also saying, that they arnt finished as the mounts for the swaybar are different on GQ, and GU's so they will have provisions for both mounts.

Also, if you wanted to talk to people about their products, i can recomend waiting, as they are always willing to have a chat, I waited about 15mins to talk to Nick, i had never met him, but dealt with him over the phone, he has a pretty good memory, and always up for a chat.

Nick is a top bloke, will allways take the time to chat.

Here is a pick of the arms on display.

Did anybody have a good look at these arms on Nicks rig? If so what did you think?

They looked sweet!!!!

Plenty of flex and would agree with the earlier comments that they look like they flex more than the 5 link he had. They really appealed to me because I do more than 40,000kms a year in my truck and like the handling on-road of the factory control arms over what I've been told about most of the 5-links out there.

Was curious about the implications for those of us that have already attacked the original brackets with a drill to fit castor plates. For strength and reliability could they supply replacement plates with holes in the factory position? I was waiting to speak to Nick about his initial thoughts on the comparison from the drivers seat but my mates kkids were causing chaos so I had to move on before I got to speak to him.