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body swaping
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:58 pm
by PAZZ
hey all,
Just wondering dose anyone know about puting a 1lt body on
a coily chassie with the coily front end? I am thinking of making
a coily ute!
thanks Pazz
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:25 am
by bigsteve
PAZZ wrote:hey all,
Just wondering dose anyone know about puting a 1lt body on
a coily chassie with the coily front end? I am thinking of making
a coily ute!
thanks Pazz
I know the 1.0 body doesn't fit on the 1.3 chassis's but if its a ute it may be different.
So will you be parting with the coiler front clip??
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:53 am
by greg
bigsteve wrote:PAZZ wrote:... 1lt body on
a coily chassie with the coily front end
So will you be parting with the coiler front clip??
I think he will be parting out with a 1L front end big steve...
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:53 am
by bigsteve
greg wrote:bigsteve wrote:PAZZ wrote:... 1lt body on
a coily chassie with the coily front end
So will you be parting with the coiler front clip??
I think he will be parting out with a 1L front end big steve...
Yeah so it was worth a try
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:54 am
by greg
bigsteve wrote:greg wrote:bigsteve wrote:PAZZ wrote:... 1lt body on
a coily chassie with the coily front end
So will you be parting with the coiler front clip??
I think he will be parting out with a 1L front end big steve...
Yeah so it was worth a try
No - i don't think it was
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:24 am
by Guy
greg wrote:bigsteve wrote:greg wrote:bigsteve wrote:PAZZ wrote:... 1lt body on
a coily chassie with the coily front end
So will you be parting with the coiler front clip??
I think he will be parting out with a 1L front end big steve...
Yeah so it was worth a try
No - i don't think it was
Why not ...
..
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:35 am
by grimbo
love_mud wrote:greg wrote:bigsteve wrote:greg wrote:bigsteve wrote:PAZZ wrote:... 1lt body on
a coily chassie with the coily front end
So will you be parting with the coiler front clip??
I think he will be parting out with a 1L front end big steve...
Yeah so it was worth a try
No - i don't think it was
Why not ...
..
are we doing the biggest quote list again?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:38 am
by greg
No
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:39 am
by Guy
grimbo wrote:
are we doing the biggest quote list again?
No .. I dont think so .. I belive it was just for the sake of continuity.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:51 am
by bigsteve
Great
Another good topic has gone south.
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:56 am
by Guy
PAZZ wrote:hey all,
Just wondering dose anyone know about puting a 1lt body on
a coily chassie with the coily front end? I am thinking of making
a coily ute!
thanks Pazz
The body mounts are in the same locations but they are not 100% compatible (the 1.3 has cupped mounts and the 1.0 has basically flat mounts) .. It may be possible to cobble something together..
The only way to be sure would be to look at two chassis\bodies side by side ..
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:29 am
by greg
love_mud wrote:The body mounts are in the same locations but they are not 100% compatible (the 1.3 has cupped mounts and the 1.0 has basically flat mounts) .. It may be possible to cobble something together..
The only way to be sure would be to look at two chassis\bodies side by side ..
As the captive bolts are on the body side (for the 1.3L body) and not attached to the chassis though - it should still work as per a regular 1L body swap though right?
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:35 am
by Guy
greg wrote:love_mud wrote:The body mounts are in the same locations but they are not 100% compatible (the 1.3 has cupped mounts and the 1.0 has basically flat mounts) .. It may be possible to cobble something together..
The only way to be sure would be to look at two chassis\bodies side by side ..
As the captive bolts are on the body side (for the 1.3L body) and not attached to the chassis though - it should still work as per a regular 1L body swap though right?
I knew that the was a signifigant difference .. just could not recall exactly what.. I know Christover has done a bodylift with 2 inch box on his 1 litre LWB .. perhaps he can shed some definitive light on this topic ..
Re: body swaping
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:41 pm
by greg
love_mud wrote:I knew that the was a signifigant difference .. just could not recall exactly what.. I know Christover has done a bodylift with 2 inch box on his 1 litre LWB .. perhaps he can shed some definitive light on this topic ..
Based upon the fact that stevie g's bodylift kit for the coiler and for my car are the same i'm pretty sure that the setups for both will be the same. Hense - it should just be the differences between ute bodies and non-ute bodies, and 1L vs 1.3L.
Search on bodylifts in this forum - there some good info about what else needs work - i.e. brake cylinder etc...
cheers
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:39 am
by PAZZ
thanks guys,
I do want to keep the front clip( i wouldnt be able to part with it!!)
The 1lt body mounts do have the same studs as a coily, but i will go check
as i have a 1lt soft top for spares and iv got a 1300 chassi sitting bare next to it( a project that didnt happen! lol,
any ideas on a rear setup, I know i have to move my diff back at least 3''. im planing on new trailing arms with an a-frame top. its already got
2 1/2 coils and ranchos, plus modded front towers as they dont make struts.
Pazz
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:41 am
by grimbo
you may have big problems trying to match a 1ltr tub to a coily frontend as they are significantly different in body shape, well I'm pretty sure I think, maybe. Be worth checking out in more depth before commencing
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:22 am
by greg
grimbo wrote:you may have big problems trying to match a 1ltr tub to a coily frontend as they are significantly different in body shape, well I'm pretty sure I think, maybe. Be worth checking out in more depth before commencing
I was just thinking that too - the tubs are different in front of the doors (between the doors and the front wheel well)... And i think they are also different between the front wheel well and the headlights.
perhaps it will be "easiest" to cut both tubs at the centre of the front wheel well and weld them both together again - though this does seem like a waste of two tubs really
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:32 am
by Guy
grimbo wrote:you may have big problems trying to match a 1ltr tub to a coily frontend as they are significantly different in body shape, well I'm pretty sure I think, maybe. Be worth checking out in more depth before commencing
I agree .. get two workshop manuals .. they will have detailed chassis drawings in them along with measurements etc .. may save you allot of time and angst in the long run ..
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:07 pm
by SAWZALL
PAZZ wrote:thanks guys,
I do want to keep the front clip( i wouldnt be able to part with it!!)
The 1lt body mounts do have the same studs as a coily, but i will go check
as i have a 1lt soft top for spares and iv got a 1300 chassi sitting bare next to it( a project that didnt happen! lol,
any ideas on a rear setup, I know i have to move my diff back at least 3''. im planing on new trailing arms with an a-frame top. its already got
2 1/2 coils and ranchos, plus modded front towers as they dont make struts.
Pazz
Are you interested in parting with this chassis????
Re: body swaping
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:25 pm
by grimbo
PAZZ wrote:hey all,
Just wondering dose anyone know about puting a 1lt body on
a coily chassie with the coily front end? I am thinking of making
a coily ute!
thanks Pazz
why not just chop the coily tub down into a ute instead of mucking aroud trying to mate two different body shapes together. Seems like this would be the easiet and quickest way to go
Re: body swaping
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:26 pm
by greg
grimbo wrote:why not just chop the coily tub down into a ute instead of mucking aroud trying to mate two different body shapes together. Seems like this would be the easiet and quickest way to go
If the planned outcome is going to be a softop it would be feasible to get the 1L or 1.3L body tub as the passenger area because it has a removable (and replacable) windscreen - the coiler does not.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:54 pm
by nicbeer
Quick question.
If i have a NT 1300 and r looking at putting a 1ltr body with a 2" bodylift in what problem will I have?? both hardtops, one is better body.
cheers
Nicbeer
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:16 pm
by greg
nicbeer wrote:If i have a NT 1300 and r looking at putting a 1ltr body with a 2" bodylift in what problem will I have?? both hardtops, one is better body.
Have a quick search mate - we've talked about this one before... but basically it will be:
1. some of the body bolts and
2. brakes
Cheers