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TYRE CHOICE FOR GU PATROL
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:34 pm
by rippin
Hi everyone. Can anyone please help me out with choosing a tire for my GU patrol. I am currently running Maxxis Bighorns 35's on a 15" x 10" steel rims with 7" coil lift, front air locker, and 85% reduction gears. I have been reasonably happy with the Bighorns, except for side wall damage and rolling the tyre off the bead allot with 19 PSI off road. I realise other factors may contribute to this. I go off road most weekends as much as I can and always keen to hit the hard tracks. I want a more aggresive tyre for bitchi during the week and hard core tracks on the weekends. Have been thinking about BAJA CLAWS, MTZ'S and MAXXIS MUDZILLAS at the moment. ANY IDEAS ?
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:02 pm
by HotFourOk
MASSIVE amout of threads on here comparing aggressive tyres such as MTZ, MTRs, Claws etc etc etc
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:05 pm
by GUEEY
If radials are your choice.
Claws all the way!!
Had 3 sets of 35s and would not buy anything else in radial.
And with your lift, 37X13.5s would rock!!
Cheers
Grant.
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:31 pm
by rippin
GUEEY
Joined: 24 May 2004
Location: south eastern melbourne
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:05 pm
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If radials are your choice.
Claws all the way!!
Had 3 sets of 35s and would not buy anything else in radial.
And with your lift, 37X13.5s would rock!!
Cheers
Grant.
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GU TD42T Wagon 3inch suspension, Airlocker, 35inch Claws
At the moment I am thinking claws in the radial or MTZ's. What are the sidewalls like. Do you give them a hiding ? Do they hold up allright.
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:33 pm
by rippin
I was thinking 37's. Dont want to loose to much power pushing 37's as apose to 35's.
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:33 pm
by GUEEY
I have used Radial Claws on all types of conditions, mud, rocky tracks etc.
i dont go below 20 psi and i have never peeled one of the rim.
i cut a sidewall on one tyre crossing a old sleeper bridge( Cut it on a large sleeper nail)
The new claws are using Mickey Thompsons new Power Ply.
A mate of mine was woking for Cooper tyres untill recently and he was telling me that the Bias Claw had been dropped of the sales list for Australia due to the improved preformance of the Radial Claw.
Grant.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:17 am
by SIM79
The MTZs are best radial tyre I used so far nothing else even comes close this tyre is in league of its own.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:05 am
by Dexter
What about trepadores? I haven't used them myself but have read some very good things about them.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:29 am
by Micka
37x12.5x16 Maxxis Creepy Crawlers.
Super strong sidewalls. Much better lateral grip than claws.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:46 am
by GUEEY
Micka wrote:37x12.5x16 Maxxis Creepy Crawlers.
Super strong sidewalls. Much better lateral grip than claws.
Yes you are right, i ran a set of Creepies 3 years ago in 35s and they are great offroad.
Rippin needs to decide whether he is chasing Bias or Radial, if it is bias the offroad ability choice is huge!
The choice for very aggressive in radial is small, to many tyres claiming to be aggressive but in reality they are just average!!
Grant.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:34 pm
by SIM79
GUEEY wrote:
The new claws are using Mickey Thompsons new Power Ply.
A mate of mine was woking for Cooper tyres untill recently and he was telling me that the Bias Claw had been dropped of the sales list for Australia due to the improved preformance of the Radial Claw.
There have been no changes to the claw, the specialty light truck sizes( these tyres are min 13.5 wide and max 15.5 wide) have always had the powerply. The original sizes don't have the powerply.
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com.au/t ... radial.htm
boof;743086 wrote:Had experience with Radial Claws, Worn Bias Claws and MTZs I hated the claws and think they are one of the most overrated tyres ever. I would run MTZs over claws anyday. Brillliant on and offroad tyre that wears great with minimal noise also.
Peter @ Aawen4x4;743176 wrote:Pretty much agree with Boof on this one! The MTZ's are a great Maximum Traction off road tyre that is also pretty good (and reasonably quiet) on the road, while the Claws are intended to be an on/off road all-rounder and they fall short of the mark at the extreme ends of both the on-road and off-road scales! We have one vehicle running an extended test on Claws atm, and while they are working and wearing well, off-road the MTZ's and the STT's work & wear better; on road the STT's are pretty much on par with the Claws and the MTZ's have it all over them!
Now Off road with the Bias Ply Claws is a whole different matter, but on road just about any rag will outperform them!
Cheers!
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:49 pm
by bogged
SIM79 wrote:Peter wrote:Pretty much agree with Boof on this one! The MTZ's are a great Maximum Traction off road tyre that is also pretty good (and reasonably quiet) on the road, while the Claws are intended to be an on/off road all-rounder and they fall short of the mark at the extreme ends of both the on-road and off-road scales! We have one vehicle running an extended test on Claws atm, and while they are working and wearing well, off-road the MTZ's and the STT's work & wear better; on road the STT's are pretty much on par with the Claws and the MTZ's have it all over them!
Now Off road with the Bias Ply Claws is a whole different matter, but on road just about any rag will outperform them!
Cheers!
then you should add the posts in the thread on here where people were very unhappy with MTZs too...
You will never find 100% of people liking each and every tire.. I think it was Beebee stating that boggers were the best AT he had driven on once..
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:59 pm
by rippin
Too many choices. I have had a set of MTZ's about 2 yrs ago, and found that they where wearing real quick. unless its just the initial wear of a new tyre. Have been looking at the Maxxis Trepadors in the radial and Pro comp Xterrain. I would rather a Bias tyre, If some could tell me that you could get at least 30,000km's out of them for every day use.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:34 pm
by Micka
rippin wrote: I would rather a Bias tyre, If some could tell me that you could get at least 30,000km's out of them for every day use.
Treat them properly - correct pressures, rotate every 5000k including spare, and they should last you 30000ks.
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:03 pm
by nastytroll
I would look at radial treps, radial claws work better then the bias but do have soft side walls, I have had plenty of mates stake them. One of my mates went to bias claws for this reason and we could see the traction diference between the 2. . There seems to be mixed opinions on the MTZ's.
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:33 pm
by rippin
Micka
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: BrisVegas
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:34 pm
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rippin wrote:
I would rather a Bias tyre, If some could tell me that you could get at least 30,000km's out of them for every day use.
Treat them properly - correct pressures, rotate every 5000k including spare, and they should last you 30000ks.
Hey Micka. Do you know anyone that runs or has run a bias tyre on the bitchie and off road as a full time everyday tyre, and what sort of km's they got.