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SX SUPER SWAMPER
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:13 pm
by rippin
Hi all just wondering if anyone has run the sx super swampers before. I have GU patrol with 7" lift and was looking at running these tyres in a 36". As every day tyre, hardcore 4bying every weekend. As long as I get 30, 000 kms life out of them, will be happy. Any one else run these.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:57 pm
by Gwagensteve
You might get 30K out of them.
I'm running 36 12.5's on my Gwagen. I chose them as they were a small step up from the Q78's I was running and came up at the right price (good condition second hand) Personally, I think they're OK, but I'd prefer to run straight swampers - 36 12.5 regular swampers are softer, lighter, narrower, taller and will work better.
Also, SX's aren't indestructible, I destroyed a sidewall on one of mine on a tree root.
they're about the same on road as "normal" swampers, but don't flex as well off road - they need less pressure to bag the same and don't seem to conform or bite as hard.
Just my 2C.
Steve.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:28 am
by micks troll
Be aware that Swampers are not speed rated and are extremely hard to balance for highway driving. I've got half a battery
... nearly strapped to my 33's let alone 36's
They also "flat spot" but you get use to that for the first 5klms in the morn. I haven't run SX's yet and now that Gwagensteve has told us info, I'll stick with the standard TSL's I too want to go 36 next
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:52 pm
by Gwagensteve
I've never balanced any of my swampers and couldn't see why you'd try. They're not round enough to bother.
Steve.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:55 pm
by HeathGQ
I've had a set of 33's and would never run them full time. Play tyres only.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:46 pm
by micks troll
Gwagensteve wrote:I've never balanced any of my swampers and couldn't see why you'd try. They're not round enough to bother.
Steve.
I have 2 sets of tyres but when driving to a park etc I wouldn't be able to get over 40ks without the death wobbles
. The boys at Tyreworks balance the best 2 and i put them on the front. It'll comfortably sit on 100 without wobbles Just dont brake hard
Definitely not a good all rounder though, but wicked good off road
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:16 am
by SIM79
The Maxxis creepy crawler might be another good option because they are easy to balance.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:14 am
by lay80n
I run SX's on my zook. Very stiff construction, to get them to bag under the zook the pressure is really low. They hold the bead okay, but i have had them come off before. As steve said, the traction is pretty good, but its not amazingly better than a TSL. I picked mine up 2nd hand and cheap, so im still very happy with them. I dont street mine, and i doubt you would really want to do it that much, they dont drive that well (though better than boggers) and wear fast.
Layto....
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:17 am
by Gwagensteve
I reckon they street OK on a heavy car, but I've not run anything other than swampers on my off road cars since 2000, so my idea of streetable is a bit wierd.
Steve.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:32 pm
by micks troll
Gwagensteve wrote:I reckon they street OK on a heavy car, but I've not run anything other than swampers on my off road cars since 2000, so my idea of streetable is a bit wierd.
Steve.
I run them on my lwb Patrol and as long as they're balanced they do handle surprisingly well but definetely not as well as my roadies (33x12.5x15 751 maxxis) the only time i run them on road is to and from parks or destinations, last time I trailered and will continue as you arrive less stressed then when fighting them all the way! I run my TSl's on 10psi and have never had one come off the bead. I soo want 36's
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:56 pm
by Gwagensteve
If you're fighting them, you're driving them wrong. They're cross ply so they'll wander- if you try and make lots of small adjustments you'll be making corrections all the time and it will drive you mad.
My wife does this when she's driving on them - she chases the wander and gets frustrated with them.
Just let them go with it and shepherd the car back on to line rather than try to hold it accurately on line. Then you can relax into it and they're fine.
However, how's your caster? If the caster is good they won't be too bad. If your caster is out they'll really be all over the place.
Steve.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:46 pm
by micks troll
Gwagensteve wrote:If you're fighting them, you're driving them wrong. They're cross ply so they'll wander- if you try and make lots of small adjustments you'll be making corrections all the time and it will drive you mad.
My wife does this when she's driving on them - she chases the wander and gets frustrated with them.
Just let them go with it and shepherd the car back on to line rather than try to hold it accurately on line. Then you can relax into it and they're fine.
However, how's your caster? If the caster is good they won't be too bad. If your caster is out they'll really be all over the place.
Steve.
Well said
I do like wise but my castor is'nt factory
and I've had bias tyres for the last 5 years I've learnt to deal with em but they dont handle as good as a radial is all I was sayin