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Where To Get Braided Fluid Lines?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:58 pm
by steve patrol
Hi All,

Ive notice my power steering hose is starting to leak and need a longer clutch hose.

Rather than going rubber again, can i get pre-made braided hoses so I do the job once/properly? If so, where from?

Cheers

Steve

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:46 pm
by yamaha__308
Enzed, pirtek, any hose place..

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:26 pm
by steve patrol
They do pre-made? Dont have to give them a length?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:40 pm
by Gwagensteve
you'll have to give them a length, or ideally, your exsiting line so they can use it as a pattern and get the fittings right.

Bear in mind that most braided hoses don't have superior burst pressures or service life, they're predominantly more abrasion resistant and swell less under large pressure changes.

Steve.

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:52 pm
by phippsy
Enzed wouldn't make a clutch line for us, but when the local guy folded and we used Pirtek, they had no problem.

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:38 pm
by steve patrol
Gwagensteve wrote:




Bear in mind that most braided hoses don't have superior burst pressures or service life, they're predominantly more abrasion resistant and swell less under large pressure changes.

Steve.
So clutch, fuel, breathers, brakes, power steering and radiator hoses would be fine in braided?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:06 pm
by mrw82
most braided hoses are the same pressure rating as a R1AT rated hose which is fine for power steer, clutch, fuel etc.... and braided hose has a much higher temperature rating, but very low wear resistance, if using it make sure it doesn't touch anything else otherwise it will rub away the braiding and fail. even having it tightly cabletied to other lines/brackets with the vibrations of an engine they will wear.
the only true useful application of braided hose is turbo oil feed hose or on show cars for BLING when $$$$$ doesn't matter.

Brake hose MUST be DOT approved hose otherwise is illegal and very unsafe, the DOT approved hose has a clear outer cover which protects the braiding from rubbing and wearing, they also contain more wire braiding giving a higher pressure rating.

I wouldn't use braided hose for your power steering for the reasons mentioned above, instead use Hi temp 1 wire hose (R1AT-6HT Enzed product number). it will last forever.

for the clutch I would use the DOT approved braided hose for its higher wear resistance but still be careful of placement. if cost is an issue then use standard rubber hose, will still last a long time if set up right. (how old is the one on the car now?)


the best way to get a hose made up is ring up local hose maker, find out if a moblie guy is in the area that YOU CAN GO TO (saves on a call out fee) take the hose to him, not the whole car, just the hose/s. get him to make em up on the spot and PAY CASH, tell him no reciept required. you'll be hard pressed to find a hose repairer that wont take cash, and its the cheapest way.

hope this helps,
Mark.

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:23 am
by steve patrol

mrw82 wrote:


for the clutch I would use the DOT approved braided hose for its higher wear resistance but still be careful of placement. if cost is an issue then use standard rubber hose, will still last a long time if set up right. (how old is the one on the car now?)
Around 245000kms, just about to do a body lift which is why i need a longer new one.

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:40 am
by 1MadEngineer
wow, i learn something every day! maybe i shouldn't be using braided hoses? WTF :?

ALL we ever use is T2A or similar (SAE 100R2AT) hose as a standard. its cheap and easy to use.

http://www.ryco.com.au/HoseDetail.aspx?Id=3

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:57 am
by steve patrol
That looks like the goods :twisted: ! How the f&*( could that where out quicker than rubber???

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:33 pm
by mrw82
steve patrol wrote:That looks like the goods :twisted: ! How the f&*( could that where out quicker than rubber???
the sae100R2AT braided hose will outlast standard hoses by a long shot, it has an outer cover protecting the braid. I was under the impression you were talking about using the stainless braid hose with no protective cover (for added bling)

like this stuff: http://www.hoseflex.com.au/pages/teflon.php
which is what I was warning you about hose placement for.