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Chevy blocks.
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:52 pm
by Kev80
For the Chevy gurus,
Which Chevy engine block is the strongest ?
The 2 bolt mains or the 4 bolt mains ?
& why ???

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:00 pm
by hotrod4x4
4 bolt mains and an 010 block......010 is a casting on the side towards the rear
010 blocks r slightly better metal from memory
and 4 bolt is just plain stronger.....holds the caps better obviously
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:00 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
A 2 bolt block, but drilled for splayed 4 bolt caps.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:19 am
by Daisy
MKPatrolGuy wrote:A 2 bolt block, but drilled for splayed 4 bolt caps.
What he said.
Tom
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:31 am
by planb
4 bolt marine block,
they say by 30%
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:56 am
by CRUSHU
MKPatrolGuy wrote:A 2 bolt block, but drilled for splayed 4 bolt caps.
why is a 2 bolt block stronger? i thought the 010 block was stronger as well. or is because of the splayed caps?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:10 pm
by Dozoor
Could be an old wives tale but , I remember reading some where That the early 2s where better iron , Factory went to 4 s after the mix was changed to keep the reliability up . But like i said probly frog shit.
Larry.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:50 pm
by Guy
Dozoor wrote:Could be an old wives tale but , I remember reading some where That the early 2s where better iron , Factory went to 4 s after the mix was changed to keep the reliability up . But like i said probly frog shit.
Larry.
I have heard the exact same thing .. Think it was a 3 or 4% higer nickel content in the early blocks ..
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:06 pm
by Kev80
Well what iv heard is that the 4 bolt mains is not as strong because the extra holes drilled into the block can structualy weaken it.
I recon it would take a massive amount of horsepower to determine if this is true or not.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:59 pm
by Cheezy4x4
2 Bolt 010 is stronger, I have been using them for years running big HP when I was drag racing. The main webbing in the old 2 bolt 010 blocks are thicker than the 4 bolters. The 4 bolters tend too crack between the threads, so I always get the 010 2 bolters and drill and tap 4 bolt steel splayed caps onto then. this is only needed if spinning over 6500 rpm.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:19 pm
by MissDrew
Which he does often, its a bit like him rolling really

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:26 pm
by Cheezy4x4
And that would be twice in 15 years, ( they are the ones that you know of anyway).
BTW, I have tonnes of DOM ATM, so how about it Roll Lux, boarder riding Hmm.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:35 pm
by MissDrew
Cheezy4x4 wrote:BTW, I have tonnes of DOM ATM, so how about it Roll Lux, boarder riding Hmm.

Sorry mate but I`m not into Dumb Obese Men like you

Chev blocks
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:43 pm
by davejb
The new Merlin aftermarket block are suppost to be real strong. If you are going to spend a fair amount of money prepping the block dont waste it on a factory block. There is better available now. Friend built a 420 ci small block recently and these became available just after he finished it, he was very pissed
Dave
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:47 pm
by Cheezy4x4
Just got my after market SBC block for my new rig, but $2800 for a block may be a bit much, but it will be stroked to 427 ci and will be strong enough for the 2 turbo's going onto it.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:50 pm
by MissDrew
What you think you got enough to strock it 427 times and with 2 turboes
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:23 pm
by luxute
We found that the 2 bolt block with 4 bolt splayed caps stronger than 4 bolt 010. Was in sprint car, produced 600hp, spun to 7500rpm
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:50 am
by Dozoor
Kev , There are some other issues that I have witnessed , x2
dudes had brought small bricks to biuld up in the non going form ,
Once one had biult his it developed a cooling prob That we couldn,t right.
after all the steam had cleared it turned out to be a pooress block.
This apprentice Poored a shid load of bucks into prep, only to find this as the outcome , The other one was a simaler scenario only lesser and managed to cure the prob with some of that magic in a can chemi weld.
Not exactly the sort of thing id be happy with pooring rubbish into my newley biult lump....
Larry.
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:02 pm
by Kev80
7000 rpm isnt bad for a V8 but did you know these F1 cars racing in Melbourne at the moment rev to 19,000 RPM for the entire race.
Thats more than my old 2-stroke moto-x bike.

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:15 pm
by Hoonz
ya gonna V8 ya rig aye kev?

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:17 pm
by Kev80
Nope, but i do have a 350 Chev in my ski boat though.
Hey Luke, hows ya 35's going ?
You entering the ASCC this month ?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:23 pm
by Hoonz
yep i will be at tsv ASCC competing
i was sposed to go to bris this weekend to go .. but no one to drive down with .. wasn't gonna do it all on my own
and 35s + gears = don't have to used airlockers most of the time
it rocks!

MTRS ARE GREAT!
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:34 pm
by Kev80
Cool.
We are heading down fri after work & stay the 2 nights, be good to catch up with the lads.
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:54 pm
by Hoonz
excellent ... many guys coming down from cairns?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:24 pm
by Kev80
Dont know about Mike & Gordy but Jons keen.
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:55 pm
by ORSM45
ey cheezy what sorta block is that? is it a keith black?
im guessing its a 400cu inch bore? with a massive stroke.
where did you get your crank for your shorty?
i finished running in my stroker and it sits on 160km/h nicely now. got lotsa thumbs up from people i was passing.
MaccA
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:27 pm
by Cheezy4x4
The block is a World Products Merlin 11, and starts life as a 350, the crank is made here in Melbourne and is a custom forged and the pistons are vanolia made to our specs, being around 8.5 to 1 comp for the turbos.
The motor in the Mav ATM is a 350 010 2 bolter converted to 4 bolt splayed caps, custom crank also with vanolia pistons to our specs, around 10 to 1 comp.