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454 in a hilux?
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:28 am
by big38l
Hey, it's sunday and just playing with ideas! Thinking of a 454 in a hilux, wondering if it could be legally engineered in NSW, will find out on monday! Thinking of 454/TH400/atlas!
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:51 pm
by brentz
all i can say is big ass diffs and can i borrow ya wallet before ya start
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:55 pm
by khany427
are you american??? hahaha
anything is possible, if it dont fit, make it fit! ive seen alot smaller cars with big blocks in them so why not?!
but ide be talking to an engineer and doing a helll of alot of studying and working out finances before you start
454
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:57 pm
by big38l
Sorry, no wallet lending... The missus has it! Haha. I know it is possible, there was a big yellow hilux getting around up here with it but I will go see the engineer n make sure before I yank the motor out of the 4Runner! Nah, not american but I do already have the engine and tranny anyway (parting out the blazer) so it sure numb the costs a bit! :-)
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:43 pm
by Struth
If they are much wider than an aussie V8 then you will run into trouble with the steering column.
Would be a mean set up if you can squeeze it in though
Cheers
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:13 pm
by big38l
Yeh, I will do a few measurements when I get the motor out of the blazer! Where there is a will there's a way! :-)
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:33 pm
by msjc38
I a have fitted a bigblock to a WB tonna. They arnt that much wider then the 253 we pulled out. I think only about only about a few inches. Its the bottom of the block thats alot bigger & the weight over thefront axle thet could be an issue.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:00 am
by big38l
Yeh the weight is the thing, although, if possible I am thinking of modifying the firewall and moving the engine back a bit!
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:33 am
by Barno111
i know of a fella who put a 454 in a little suz serria. wasn't legal though but still got it in there. but why dont you think about putting like the V6 commodor engine or the v8. they are much more common conversions and they probly have bolt one kits for them.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:55 am
by big38l
Yeh, it has a commodore v6 in it at the moment, with a dyna 5spd and duals! The reason I was thinking of the conversion was that I have the engine and tranny already with a full gas system, other than registration and available space it should be a fairly easy convert! Also it isn't that common as a commonwhore convert!
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:42 am
by hulsty
With $$$$ you could probably squueze it in, people are putting in 1UZ's they have large DOHC heads on them. Doubt it would be legal though, waaaayyy over the allowable capacity limits for engine upgrades. But with enough $$$ could get it registered as something like a ICV with all the relevant testing done.
Re: 454 in a hilux?
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:35 pm
by jessie928
big38l wrote:Hey, it's sunday and just playing with ideas! Thinking of a 454 in a hilux, wondering if it could be legally engineered in NSW, will find out on monday! Thinking of 454/TH400/atlas!
best thing you could do is sell the 454 big block, and with the money get a 400 small block
( although a 350 or a 327 woudl be plenti in a lowlux.
Jes
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:21 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
Ring an engineer and go from there. thats my 2cents.
usual rule applies, make a budget and double it.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:47 pm
by khany427
Barno111 wrote:i know of a fella who put a 454 in a little suz serria. wasn't legal though but still got it in there. but why dont you think about putting like the V6 commodor engine or the v8. they are much more common conversions and they probly have bolt one kits for them.
theres conversion kits available for the chev aswell, no dramas there, same as small block chevs. the engine mounts may be a little different though.
cant quite remember... and cant be bothered goin out to the shed to measure my 350 an 454
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:50 pm
by bad_religion_au
while i'm all for "different" conversions, i'm still trying to work out the advantages of this creation? you could get more power out of a 2j-gze or 1uz-fe conversion, be faster, and all that.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:12 pm
by AcTioN13
and lighter
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:13 pm
by Struth
Sell the big block, build yourself a stonking EFI 5.0 and bung that in
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:26 pm
by redv8lux
Mount the 454 back to front in the tray area with a turbo700 feeding straight into a boat Vdrive which is adapted to the front of the gearbox
This way youll have all your weight more centralised Heaps of power
heaps of gearing ( 4 auto, 5 in toyota box plus hi an low plus whatever gearing you run in Vdrive)
An Huge WOW factor
The amount of torque you should get out of it you'll have to go for rockwell diffs or something equally heavy duty
Hey you can dream cant ya!
Re: 454
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:05 pm
by rustys
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there was a big yellow hilux getting around up here with it but I will go see the engineer n make sure before I yank the motor.
The big yellow Hilux I thing you are talking about had a 406 small block in it with fuel injection turbo 700 box and 9" diffs I built it about 10 years ago and sold it to a mate about 6 years ago how lived on the central coast it had the number plate BAR UP on it
That motor had more then enough torque as it could light both the rear 39'' tyres up of the lights all the way into 3 gear mate I miss driving that thing.
I say just do it.
Garth
Re: 454
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:21 pm
by redv8lux
rustys wrote:
there was a big yellow hilux getting around up here with it but I will go see the engineer n make sure before I yank the motor.
The big yellow Hilux I thing you are talking about had a 406 small block in it with fuel injection turbo 700 box and 9" diffs I built it about 10 years ago and sold it to a mate about 6 years ago how lived on the central coast it had the number plate BAR UP on it
That motor had more then enough torque as it could light both the rear 39'' tyres up of the lights all the way into 3 gear mate I miss driving that thing.
I say just do it.
Garth
Never seen that one but i've seen a similar setup at a mud bash here in vic a few years back
Was very tough an pretty damn quick through the course
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:45 pm
by Twistinchassie
hey big48l your runner isnt that gold one on 37in claws?
Re: 454
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:41 pm
by brentz
Garth[/quote]
Never seen that one but i've seen a similar setup at a mud bash here in vic a few years back
Was very tough an pretty damn quick through the course[/quote]
good old mud bash gee is that thing still on and u have any info on it always rember it being queens bday weekend?
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:51 pm
by dirty harry
do it
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:01 pm
by big38l
Yep, thinking about it Harry, just want to make sure I can get it rego'd! Even though it will spend most of the time on a trailer n a few comps, I still want to be able to go for a run up the watagans n stuff now n then!