Outer Limits 4x4 Board

does anyone know what sort of $$$ id be looking at to do a live axle conversion to a 1992 toyota surf?
cheers,
michael

It'll cost you about $2500 - 3000. depending on what steering you use and what you plan to do with the rear

I have a 2000 model hilux which originaly had IFS instead of modifying the original chassis which was damaged i replaced the entire chassis with an 84 model chassis. After doing my homework i found it was cheaper.

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i was thinking about doing leaf all round coz ive heard it would be easier to set up. is that true?

all up i spent about $6000 that is with crossover steering, late model ifs rears, extended shackles, 2inch lift blocks in the rear,rs9000 all round, A-frame rear shock kit,extended brake line, shock hoops, ubolt flip kits front and back, that includes engineering and a few extras i changed along the way but i also picked up my shocks dirt cheap off a mate

could you recommend any places to get quotes from?

If your going to get someone to do it for you then you'll probibly be looking a 5k or more

id probably have to get someone to do it coz im not really good with welding and that sort of stuff.
5k do you reckon it would be worth doing

crokie83 wrote:id probably have to get someone to do it coz im not really good with welding and that sort of stuff.
5k do you reckon it would be worth doing

If you are emotionally attached to your car then yes. Otherwise sell it and buy something with a Solid Front Axle.

One think to remember if your gonna do it, is that you won't get back what you put into it if you sell it in the near future. If your happy with the vehicle and want to keep it for a long time then go ahead. Its not that difficult a job to do, you can get someone to weld the front hanger and drill and tube the chassis for you then its really just a bolt on job for the front, except for welding the shock hoops.

Im SASing mine later this year sometime.
I have a hilux extra cab IFS and they never had solid front since like 85 or somthing. So if they dont build them the way ya want it then its time to go custom .
Same applies to a Surf/Forerunner. If you are happy with it but want more your only option is a SAS.

Now if someone said should I SAS a 98 Hilux IFS single cab Id say NO WAY just go trade in and buy 96 solid fronted one.
Paul.

crokie83 wrote:i was thinking about doing leaf all round coz ive heard it would be easier to set up. is that true?

So you want to do a conversion on both ends?

This will cost more than 5 thousand for someone else to do it for you.

Do you want to use new springs or second hand ones?

buying a IFS and doing a SAS can work out cheaper than to do up a solid axle front specialy if its already has a 2" lift.
with IFS you`ve got the wider rear housing, got longer leafs already got the steering box for x over steer use your old hubs to widen the front.
by doing a SAS you`ve got to custom shock tower anyway and use x over steer choose what ever leafs and shackles you want.so the only exspence is to get a front diff and hangers and lengthen your front shaft and maybe some new rims.

thanks for all your advice guys its given me an idea on what its gonna cost me

crokie83 wrote:thanks for all your advice guys its given me an idea on what its gonna cost me

Oh yeah I paid to get mine done I supplied the front diff and leafs and cost me $2K .

$2k thats not too bad then

4sum4 did that include the steering?
Have you got high steer or what?

Just finished my SAS on 2000 mod, cost me approx $4500 but depends on what parts you use and how you do it.

will look even better with my Simex's on it

Those that have done it, are you happy witht he conversion???

Been considering SAS for a while, but biggest concerns are stability/handling and safety of the vehicle after. We also use our lux for long trips and daily driver with 2 young kids. Can't afford to compromise safety.

gerg wrote:Those that have done it, are you happy witht he conversion???

Been considering SAS for a while, but biggest concerns are stability/handling and safety of the vehicle after. We also use our lux for long trips and daily driver with 2 young kids. Can't afford to compromise safety.

What about those who have had Solid Axle from the start ie 1996 and prior. If its the same in principle, if it wasn't safe no one would be driving these vehicles.

So stability and handling SHOULD be the same as a standard solid axle lux or similar.

ToNkA wrote:

gerg wrote:Those that have done it, are you happy witht he conversion???

Been considering SAS for a while, but biggest concerns are stability/handling and safety of the vehicle after. We also use our lux for long trips and daily driver with 2 young kids. Can't afford to compromise safety.

What about those who have had Solid Axle from the start ie 1996 and prior. If its the same in principle, if it wasn't safe no one would be driving these vehicles.

So stability and handling SHOULD be the same as a standard solid axle lux or similar.

ToNka

Yeah, I guess I'd never considered it like that. Suppose it comes down to the quality of the work in doing the conversion

my solid axle swap turned into an 8inch lift and as anevery day driver its fine everyone claims it looks unstable but to ride in it i feel its fine alittle dicey climbing rocks but i think thats just nerves getting the better of me

ausyota wrote:4sum4 did that include the steering?
Have you got high steer or what?

Yeah.its an overkill SAS so I got overkill everything.

gerg wrote:Those that have done it, are you happy witht he conversion???

Been considering SAS for a while, but biggest concerns are stability/handling and safety of the vehicle after. We also use our lux for long trips and daily driver with 2 young kids. Can't afford to compromise safety.

Save your cash, then get a old sh$ter and spend the cash on that and tow it around that way if you wreck it it dosn`t matter.