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Nylon as driveshaft spacer
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:53 pm
by Kitika
When I was in the local bearing shop the other day I was looking at their nylon rods and an idea sprung to my head. Will the nylon be strong enough to use as a driveshaft spacer? I've made up a driveshaft spacer for the front end out aluminium but it was a pain because the only stock material I can get is square so there is heaps more machining involved. Whereas the nylon already comes in a round rod and is very easy to machine the lips into and drill the holes etc.
Will the material hold up to the stresses in the driveline?
Cheers for any insight!
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:47 am
by alien
my worry would be that it would tend to flog out and go all sloppy... probably best to go the pre-manufactured options already available.
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:24 am
by GRPABT1
Lcoktup have some cheap 1inch ones in stock atm that I got chris to order in

Believe me cheapest around, not worth making them.
Re: Nylon as driveshaft spacer
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:41 am
by Mike_1324
Kitika wrote:When I was in the local bearing shop the other day I was looking at their nylon rods and an idea sprung to my head. Will the nylon be strong enough to use as a driveshaft spacer? I've made up a driveshaft spacer for the front end out aluminium but it was a pain because the only stock material I can get is square so there is heaps more machining involved. Whereas the nylon already comes in a round rod and is very easy to machine the lips into and drill the holes etc.
Will the material hold up to the stresses in the driveline?
Cheers for any insight!
But if you were to make the, then yes, it will be strong enough.
MF
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:09 pm
by 11_evl
give it a go and report back, make it for the front and try it.. no harm in that.. if it does break, so what, its only the front.
+ as you said, it will machine easy, time is free if your doing it for your self
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:58 pm
by GRPABT1
Could possibly fit metal sleaves for the bolt holes and a sleave of large diam pipe over the whole thing
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:59 pm
by Gwagensteve
If it breaks there's a r chance it could smash its way into the cabin or hit the ground and lever the car onto its roof.
Don't do it. These are a precision part - the rebate and spigot on the yoke and flange are pretty critical. I wouldn't even use alloy, let alone nylon.
Steve.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 pm
by Guy
why bother .. spacers are only about $30 to $40.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:22 pm
by suzukigav
Could possibly fit metal sleaves for the bolt holes and a sleave of large diam pipe over the whole thing
Why not just make it out of metal bar in the first place??? You can buy pretty much any diameter round bar.....??? [/quote]
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:41 pm
by 11_evl
lockiytup is selling em for $39 delivered.
not worth looking for the material let alone machineing it up
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:44 pm
by GRPABT1
I was just throwing up ideas, I CBF making them when you can get them so cheap off locktup.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:04 pm
by da13ro
Gwagensteve wrote:If it breaks there's a r chance it could smash its way into the cabin or hit the ground and lever the car onto its roof.
Don't do it. These are a precision part - the rebate and spigot on the yoke and flange are pretty critical. I wouldn't even use alloy, let alone nylon.
Steve.
Just to comment on this, mythbusters tested this theory, of memory the result was plausible, but extremely unlikely. Took them days to reproduce. Not that im siding with the use of nylon spacers here!
driveshaft spacers...
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:55 pm
by Impulsive
I made one out of a kitchen chopping board years ago...lol
(I'm gonna get smashed for that, I know....)
Anyhoo... needless to say, it only lasted about a year before it crapped out and I took it out.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:55 pm
by Gwagensteve
On a 4WD with a front driveshaft?
I think they used a RWD car dropping the shaft out of the gearbox.
I'd say dropping a front shaft in a 4WD woudl be much more likely to start the lever.
PS I have seen the result of a front shaft coming though the tunnel...
Steve.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:22 pm
by jonno_racing
why steve? it works on the same pricible??
and in a zook it would just swivel on the uni under the chassi..
i would do it! BUT i think it is plausable.. and i wouldnt have a problem with it in the front!
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:21 pm
by GRPABT1
da13ro wrote:Gwagensteve wrote:If it breaks there's a r chance it could smash its way into the cabin or hit the ground and lever the car onto its roof.
Don't do it. These are a precision part - the rebate and spigot on the yoke and flange are pretty critical. I wouldn't even use alloy, let alone nylon.
Steve.
Just to comment on this, mythbusters tested this theory, of memory the result was plausible, but extremely unlikely. Took them days to reproduce. Not that im siding with the use of nylon spacers here!
If they'd watched much motor racing they need not have bothered. It can and has happened even on a RWD car.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:26 pm
by Gwagensteve
In the front, it won't just lock the wheels and skid. The back will drive the car over the top of the shaft.
Steve.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:35 pm
by Kitika
I'll definitely be going for one from locktup! I haven't seen a spacer that cheap before I thought they were all around the $80 mark landed in oz.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:41 pm
by GRPABT1
They are! Some even try to sell them for $80 plus postage from Aus, *cough snake cough*. I hit Chris up to see what price he could do me and nearly backflipped, and he said he was thinking about stocking them all the time. I told him at that price you won't have trouble moving them.
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:11 am
by fordy1
on the front drive shaft thing my dad had it come through the floor on his MQ patrol doing 100ks down the freeway, it does happen and unfortunatly the injuries will always be with him.
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:39 am
by PCRman
The story i heard about was the guy who put his new >sane hp street machine on a dyno. ran it up, drive shaft let go at noise and made like a blender blade nearly ripping car in half. I wonder if the high HP dyno guys control revs from outside the car for a reason????
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:26 pm
by GRPABT1
Tailshaft loops are a requirement for most motorsports for a reason....
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:13 pm
by mike_nofx
Pardon my ignorance, but how do you work out what thickness spacer you need?
Mike