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lockright lockers?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:16 pm
by zookkid
how do lockright lockers go in the rear of sierra's? as a daily driver
were do u get them from?
how much?
ive done a search..
Re: lockright lockers?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:19 pm
by want33s
Re: lockright lockers?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:25 pm
by St Jimmy
zookkid wrote:how do lockright lockers go in the rear of sierra's? as a daily driver were do u get them from? :how much? ive done a search..
1]good
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http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/suzukimain.htm
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under 300
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:29 pm
by neil_se
Mine can be a bit clunky around corners but its a fair price to pay.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:47 pm
by dank
get it setup and installed properly to the correct specs and you will hardly know its there. Mine make's barely any noise around corners. if at all.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:49 pm
by zookkid
hi tech in penno wants $1000 installed!!! fuk dat ima 2nd year mechanic i rekon id be able to do it meself!!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:56 pm
by brendan_h
do it yourself. im hopfully getting a lockright soon
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:59 pm
by GRPABT1
Mines daily and once you get used to the driving style inherent with auto lockers you hardly notice it.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:02 pm
by zookkid
so you can only get them off lowrangeoffroad.com??
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:43 am
by lay80n
zookkid wrote:so you can only get them off lowrangeoffroad.com??
Go and have another search, but this time do it with your eyes open. Dont be afraid to use google too, it doesnt bite.
Just about all the major aftermarket places in the states and here sell a version of the auto lockers, either lockright, detroit ez locker, 4wd systems lokka etc etc. As for how much, i paid $175US years ago. Install is simple (i am an ex mechanic) just make sure you install it correctly.
Layto....
Re: lockright lockers?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:06 am
by grimbo
zookkid wrote:how do lockright lockers go in the rear of sierra's? as a daily driver
were do u get them from?
how much?
ive done a search..
so what did you find when you searched because all the answers are there or do people just chuck that bit in at the end to cover themselves when they haven't actually searched
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:57 am
by Ridge
i got my locker of the lowrangeoffroad website recently a month or two ago, and paid about 250aus including shipping.
just installed it my self last saturday in the rear diff, and it is fairly easy anyone with a decent tool kit and lock tight can do it.
it is very quiet, i hardly notice it on the road and it is kick ass off road
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:11 pm
by paid_hitman
For the people who have installed them themselves,
how hard is it to fit, you say it isnt hard, how much involved?
And what style? I.e. Lockright Rear with/without couplers?
Whats required after taking the centre out? Removing the ring gear (and spider gears if without couplers) ? what about back lashes and all other details involved in fitting? or is most of that irrelevant with the lockright?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:24 pm
by want33s
paid_hitman wrote:For the people who have installed them themselves,
how hard is it to fit, you say it isnt hard, how much involved?EASY if you have basic hand tools
And what style? I.e. Lockright Rear with/without couplers?
Whats required after taking the centre out? Removing the ring gear (and spider gears if without couplers) ?YEP, thats it. what about back lashes and all other details involved in fitting?Backlash will need to be reset. or is most of that irrelevant with the lockright?
It's easy enough because you don't do a full relash. You don't have to adjust the pinion shims or preload. When I do a diff I wind the ring gear side adjuster up until there is Zero lash and then wind the other side in until the lash is the same as it was before disassembly.
Jas.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:06 pm
by VR Rodeo
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:25 pm
by paid_hitman
want33s wrote:paid_hitman wrote:For the people who have installed them themselves,
how hard is it to fit, you say it isnt hard, how much involved?EASY if you have basic hand tools
And what style? I.e. Lockright Rear with/without couplers?
Whats required after taking the centre out? Removing the ring gear (and spider gears if without couplers) ?YEP, thats it. what about back lashes and all other details involved in fitting?Backlash will need to be reset. or is most of that irrelevant with the lockright?
It's easy enough because you don't do a full relash. You don't have to adjust the pinion shims or preload. When I do a diff I wind the ring gear side adjuster up until there is Zero lash and then wind the other side in until the lash is the same as it was before disassembly.
Jas.
Ok i cant fully visual what ur saying
the adjusters are you talking about the who bolt heads that can be seen in this photo (from link above?)
and also by tensioning one to make it zero lash wouldnt then adjusting the other one just cause the bearings to have different preloads on them? it isnt going to shag out the bearings any faster and also isnt the guess-timate on the 'lash' a bit rough as far a diff longetivity is concerned?
And to those who said that its easy.... there looks to be alot involved from that detailed read through posted above, i've got all the tools just not suffient know how to confidently do a job and do it properly not jsut have to get it rebuilt 5000 clicks down the road. I'm a 4th year electritian and the most i've done myself on my zook is installing my transfer gears with new bearings. This looks MUCH more involved. Yes or No? and also more opportunities too stuff up? and also if i do stuff up is it just new bearings or will it need a new locker too?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:05 pm
by want33s
Those two bolts on each side only hold the hemishpere bearings in place. The adjuster rings are the bit the fingers are holding in the pic.
Adjust the crownwheel side till there is no lash and then adjust the other side. This sets the preload as the pinion pushes the crownwheel away from the hemisphere..
Preolad is shared between the two bearings not all load on one.
It might not be an exact method but I've done a few diffs now and none whine or clunk.
If you do stuff up the lash setting you won't hurt the locker but may prematurely wear the CW&P.
Jas.
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:59 pm
by zookkid
so do i want couplers or dont i? i dont mind paying the extra $70 watever...
and what diff do they make
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:22 pm
by want33s
zookkid wrote:so do i want couplers or dont i? i dont mind paying the extra $70 watever...
and what diff do they make
Pull one or both of your axles out and check to see if there is any wear on the drive splines.
If you can see ANY wear, it's a fair bet the side gears (couplers) have some wear too. So replace them.
Jas.
PS: You need to learn to use Google.
This info is all freely (& easily)available from Lockright and other manufacturers.
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:54 pm
by brendan_h
are the couplers what the axel shafts go into? the splines?
ive got a lockright on the way for the rear but i didnt get the couplers.
i also is it true that the lockright with the couplers only fit the rear? why dont they make one that suits the front? and what if the front couplers are worn out?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:10 pm
by want33s
brendan_h wrote:are the couplers what the axel shafts go into? the splines?
YES
ive got a lockright on the way for the rear but i didnt get the couplers.
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i also is it true that the lockright with the couplers only fit the rear?
YES why dont they make one that suits the front?
THEY DO and what if the front couplers are worn out?
Front side gears practically never wear out as they don't get anywhere near as much use as the rears.
Lockright sell their locker without couplers for use in front or rear and also sell replacement rear(26 spline)couplers.
Jas.
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:13 pm
by brendan_h
thanks for clearing that up
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:49 pm
by zookkid
well u see my rear diff is really noisy cos i sunk it,i did change the oil a week later but was still loud,if its that loud wouldnt my side couplings (spider gears) be fukd also?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:59 pm
by zookkid
and what brand or site would you reccomend for a lockright locker?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:15 pm
by brendan_h
i got mighn from loktedup4wd
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:28 pm
by Zook_Fan
they got a website?
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:58 am
by grimbo
Zook_Fan wrote:they got a website?
yes
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:45 am
by bulldogy
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:52 pm
by GRPABT1
want33s wrote:brendan_h wrote:are the couplers what the axel shafts go into? the splines?
YES
ive got a lockright on the way for the rear but i didnt get the couplers.
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i also is it true that the lockright with the couplers only fit the rear?
YES why dont they make one that suits the front?
THEY DO and what if the front couplers are worn out?
Front side gears practically never wear out as they don't get anywhere near as much use as the rears.
Lockright sell their locker without couplers for use in front or rear and also sell replacement rear(26 spline)couplers.
Jas.
Are these couplers you speak of the side gears necessary for installing chromo axles in the front?
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:53 pm
by Brendan-s
zookkid wrote:hi tech in penno wants $1000 installed!!! fuk dat ima 2nd year mechanic i rekon id be able to do it meself!!
Then you'll understand labour charges and the effort that goes into fitting a lockrite, right?