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Looking at replacing GQ 35" tyres, currently have worn Wrangler 35" MTR's.

The GQ has only been recently purchased still want to stay with 35's but want to keep the budget below $300 per boot.

What are my options probably drive 7o% blacktop and 30% offroad but want a MT type tyre.

Where in Sydney at the moment are the best places to buy 4wd tyres at the right price?

Cheers and thanks in advance....

I would doubt you will find many of the bigger names for under $300.

I was thinking of going 35 MAXXIS bighorn's, but ended up getting 33's instead. however, i am stoked with the traction and ride of them. handle great on road, and aren't that noisy. offroad and they are awesome.

I paid 200 each for the 33's, and was quoted $260 for the 35's, have already done about 5000 k, and i can still see the red and green line on the tread. they are wearing great.

Will definetly be buying these again.

dklyne454 wrote:I was thinking of going 35 MAXXIS bighorn's, but ended up getting 33's instead. however, i am stoked with the traction and ride of them. handle great on road, and aren't that noisy. offroad and they are awesome.

I paid 200 each for the 33's, and was quoted $260 for the 35's, have already done about 5000 k, and i can still see the red and green line on the tread. they are wearing great.

Will definetly be buying these again.

Was also looking at Bighorns... how do they go on the blacktop and grip in the wet, what type of rubber did you have before for comparision.

I think Mongrels MTs are cheaper than 300 for 35"s, aggressive but there softy's so for kms and comfort???

Cool95 wrote:

dklyne454 wrote:I was thinking of going 35 MAXXIS bighorn's, but ended up getting 33's instead. however, i am stoked with the traction and ride of them. handle great on road, and aren't that noisy. offroad and they are awesome.

I paid 200 each for the 33's, and was quoted $260 for the 35's, have already done about 5000 k, and i can still see the red and green line on the tread. they are wearing great.

Will definetly be buying these again.

Was also looking at Bighorns... how do they go on the blacktop and grip in the wet, what type of rubber did you have before for comparision.

Got the bighonrs in 285/75r16 on a GQ wagon and done a bit over 10,000km on them now with plenty of weekend/daytrips on them. Road noise is high as you'd expect from the sort of tread design it is, but its not too bad really. BFG MT's are louder and drone more, the bighorns vary in pitch which makes them slightly more bearable.

Blacktop dry grip is fine so far. Not a dangerous tyre. Have very predictable limits. In the wet they're also very good for a traditional design MT tread, they dont aquaplane EVER. THey don't let go suddenly, but I have done a complete 180 on a highway onramp once before - the rear end started sliding and it was goooooone.

Wear seems to be reasonable for a muddy which has done probably less than 500km offroad (i'm out at least twice a month but being just short trips, well you know *sigh*) but if you dont deflate them in rocks they tend to get torn up easily as its a soft rubber compound. Not tearing off like the hard rubber on the coopers though.

I reckon the rubber will harden up as they see more heat cycles and wear down below 50%.

Mine have already lost the square edge and as a result they're nowhere near as good in mud as they were the first weekend I went out with them.

Have had direct comparisions now with bridgestone dueler D693 D694 BFG AT Goodyear wrangler MTR MT MTZ and BFG MT.

None of them are as terrain flexible as the bighorn has proven to be for me - except for the MTZ which is simply a better rubber. No ifs or buts about it

Cool95 wrote:

dklyne454 wrote:I was thinking of going 35 MAXXIS bighorn's, but ended up getting 33's instead. however, i am stoked with the traction and ride of them. handle great on road, and aren't that noisy. offroad and they are awesome.

I paid 200 each for the 33's, and was quoted $260 for the 35's, have already done about 5000 k, and i can still see the red and green line on the tread. they are wearing great.

Will definetly be buying these again.

Was also looking at Bighorns... how do they go on the blacktop and grip in the wet, what type of rubber did you have before for comparision.

They handle real well in the dry and wet just like YOM said,.

I have had BFG M/T, Wrangles, duelers, and claws. The claws were great. loved them, but don't think there is much noticeable difference between them, so cant justify them for the $100 or so difference in cost.
Would never get another set of BFG, i think there crap. wasn't happy with them at all.
Wranglers and duelers i both liked, but i think that the bighorn is still better. I reckon the wrangler might have been a little better on road, but not as good off.

Thanks for all the replies much appreciated... I have had BFG MT's (bloody dangerous in the wet) and Wrangler MTR's (liked them except for two side wall failures).

Have the MTZ's on my Hilux can't agree more much better than the other MT I have had they are quieter (maybe the Hilux is quieter than Disco), excellent on road and can't be stopped off-road, got a locker and haven't used it in anger yet did the Merricumbene FT in the wet without using the locker at 18 psi awesome grip !

The GQ is my son's and the budget can't afford the MTZ's but so far I have from Bob Jane been quoted for 35" Bighorns $275 each without haggling, thing is does anyone else other than Bob Jane stock Bighorns?

I think the bighorns in the low budget MT's to be the choice in cost vs. performance.

Again many thanks....

Maxxis Buckshots are a great tyre too. Priced quite competitively. Have 33's on my GQ and seem to have all the characteristics of the Bighorns, only cheaper.

adriand82 wrote:Maxxis Buckshots are a great tyre too. Priced quite competitively. Have 33's on my GQ and seem to have all the characteristics of the Bighorns, only cheaper.

Where did you get the Maxxis from? The only place I can find at the moment is Bob Jane.

I got mine from Bob Jane. They are stocked elsewhere here in QLD, but Bob Jane was the cheapest I could find, at $200 fitted.

steve patrol wrote:I think Mongrels MTs are cheaper than 300 for 35"s, aggressive but there softy's so for kms and comfort???

Mongrels dont come in a 35.These are a monoform (retread from wall to wall) radial They only went up to 33. They were an awesome cheap tyre as i had them but went to TSL Swampers for offroad duties.

yer gotta rate the bighorns too. got em in 33s, found em a lot better than the wranglers. great in mud, and good at rocks if tyre pressure let right down as they are quite a hard tyre. seem fine on road cant complain

adriand82 wrote:Maxxis Buckshots are a great tyre too. Priced quite competitively. Have 33's on my GQ and seem to have all the characteristics of the Bighorns, only cheaper.

No offense intended mate, but the Buckshots I would compare in tread design to the BFG MT. Old design.

The Bighorn has very few design characteristics of the Buckshot, and is just a much, much better tyre. Buckshots don't even have side biters. At least the bighorns have some - not the biggest or the best but they do help.

Yom wrote:

adriand82 wrote:Maxxis Buckshots are a great tyre too. Priced quite competitively. Have 33's on my GQ and seem to have all the characteristics of the Bighorns, only cheaper.

No offense intended mate, but the Buckshots I would compare in tread design to the BFG MT. Old design.

The Bighorn has very few design characteristics of the Buckshot, and is just a much, much better tyre. Buckshots don't even have side biters. At least the bighorns have some - not the biggest or the best but they do help.

LOL no offence taken at all! I had a set of Hankook RT03's before these that had a more agressive pattern with side biters and found absolutely no difference in traction. Like the Bighorns the biters are only there for show. Buckshots will easily get me by until I get some Silverstone Xtremes or Pedes

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic149954.php

just listed i just brought bfg muds 35's
but would have brought these mine are 95% tread you buy the maxis and i'll swap you

sorry didn't see you where in sydney but worth a shot LOL

adriand82 wrote:

Yom wrote:

adriand82 wrote:Maxxis Buckshots are a great tyre too. Priced quite competitively. Have 33's on my GQ and seem to have all the characteristics of the Bighorns, only cheaper.

No offense intended mate, but the Buckshots I would compare in tread design to the BFG MT. Old design.

The Bighorn has very few design characteristics of the Buckshot, and is just a much, much better tyre. Buckshots don't even have side biters. At least the bighorns have some - not the biggest or the best but they do help.

LOL no offence taken at all! I had a set of Hankook RT03's before these that had a more agressive pattern with side biters and found absolutely no difference in traction. Like the Bighorns the biters are only there for show. Buckshots will easily get me by until I get some Silverstone Xtremes or Pedes

Yeh its all on the road where you'll notice the differences between the buckshot and the bighorn.

Off topic: Do we compensate much? Drive big vehicles, with big lifts and tyres called Big horns.