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Need a trailer to cart clothes and jerries to Perth when we move at the end of this year, and to chuck a tent on top of once we're there like Christover's Tadpole

Found these from Modern Trailers in Adelaide and thought they were extremely well priced. Prices below include GST and are for 5' x 3' - the first trailer is their 'basic' 500kg gross model (50x2.5 SHS drawbar); the second two have a 75x50x2.5 RHS drawbar and are rated to 750kg gross.

Will probably go the Deluxe as it has a fair bit more kit than the 3/4 Ton for only $90 more (incl. 2.1mm checkerplate floor) and the Basic is pretty cheap and nasty. They are going to make the drawbar custom length to suit the Zook tailgate and move the axle as far to the back of the trailer as allowable too.

Only downside is the hubs are Holden 6 stud, and the wheelbase is narrower than the Zook, but will see how it goes and replace the axle and hubs later if needed. 175kg is a little on the porky side, but I think the additional strength is worth the extra 35kg's over the Basic.

For the flamers, no this isn't a highly tech oriented thread, but it is Zook related info (who else buys 5' x 3' trailers?!) and I thought the prices were darn good.

Basic $660 - weight 140kg

3/4 Ton $930 - weight 160kg

Deluxe $1020 - weight 175kg

do a search for christovers camping trailer, Awesome thread and awesome outcome

I had my trailer "rebuilt" by my ex-brother-inlaw !!
5'x3'
F100 hubs
same track as a WT zook
gaurds same width as WT flares !!!
750kg springs (bit to heavy , bounces when empty !!)

behind a normal vechile , you can hardly see the trailer ,
but tows awesome behind the zook !!!

how hard would it be to swap the hubs to f100/zook style. even fit free wheel hubs there and use them as spares.

One way is to use a vit rear housing as i beleive they are free floaters? or just get a blank hub drilled to suit the zook pattern.

Grimbo - I followed Christover's thread with much interest when he was building Tadpole. I agree - awesome thread and awesome outcome.

I will have a chat to Modern Trailer about doing custom axle and hubs to match Zook track width and stud pattern while providing sufficient clearance to fit 31's under the guards, but I think it'll end up too expensive. I'm doing reno's on the house before we leave for Perth and don't have any spare cash at the moment.

I'm not sure if I should consider downgrading from 2.1 checkerplate floor to 1.6 rolled steel to save a bit of weight? Any thoughts?

'Deluxe' comes standard with 5 leaf slipper springs too which are going to be way too heavy. Will get them down-specced to 4 or even 3 leaf slippers.

what u thinking of carrying in the trailer? if not much or general then go for the drop in floor weight. maybe think about a jockey wheel like christovas one, they are great and also a spare tyre on there but u can do that later and chuck it inside for the time being easy.

dont go for 31s on there too much rolling weight. just get the hubs changed and axle wider if u can can fit up some std sierra rims/tyres. cheap or free then for tyres/rims.

they may work out to be cheaper to say F100 5 stud then the sierra as they may market it as that. check here http://www.trailerparts.net.au/ and under hubs they have the F100 one listed as $40. $10 more than the std holden/ford ones. and there are plenty of axle widths available and also rim offset to play with.

also where in perth u moving to yet?

The Zook'll only let me tow about 200kg of gear in the trailer tops so I think rolled steel probably is the way to go. It'll be easier to clean and roll storage boxes over than the checkerplate too. The 3/4T model only has 1.6mm rolled steel anyway, so it's strong enough to take the maximum unbraked trailer load.

Jockey wheel and spare tyre are definates.

Good point re rolling weight, but (once my Zook is on 31's) that would then give me a couple of spare tyres when in the bush. Will have a think about it.

Thanks for the linky to trailerparts.net.au - gives me a feel for what the changes would be worth.

Dunno where in Perth we'll be moving. South east of the city somewhere. Have rellies and friends in Carlisle, Riverton, Gosnells and Thornlie, so anywhere out that way where we can rent a 3 bedroom house and have our 2 staffies. Could be difficult to find

Moph wrote:The Zook'll only let me tow about 200kg of gear in the trailer tops so I think rolled steel probably is the way to go. It'll be easier to clean and roll storage boxes over than the checkerplate too. The 3/4T model only has 1.6mm rolled steel anyway, so it's strong enough to take the maximum unbraked trailer load.

Jockey wheel and spare tyre are definates.

Good point re rolling weight, but (once my Zook is on 31's) that would then give me a couple of spare tyres when in the bush. Will have a think about it.

Thanks for the linky to trailerparts.net.au - gives me a feel for what the changes would be worth.

Dunno where in Perth we'll be moving. South east of the city somewhere. Have rellies and friends in Carlisle, Riverton, Gosnells and Thornlie, so anywhere out that way where we can rent a 3 bedroom house and have our 2 staffies. Could be difficult to find

dont u want to stay away from the family

i am north river.

if u get the hubs and axle done there and then u can always do SPOA once u are here for the smaller trips and chuck 31s on it.

Moving 2700k's to be with the wife's family so nah, am happy to live close. My wife's sister is married to my best mate which works just dandily, happy to have them around the corner.

Good point re SPOA - I'd forgotten you can just flip the U-bolts and gain extra clearance that way.

I can't wait to move ... I really need a change of scenery. Only 4 months to go.... (sigh)

Would the smallest one hold an ebay style tent like christo's? If so I might buy one of them and do a SPOA and maybe use some of the old suspension of the zook to get some lift.

biggest point i would be looking at is weight the less the better so when towing it wont kill the zook

I'm talking to one of my friends making a total alloy trailer

ofr57 wrote:biggest point i would be looking at is weight the less the better so when towing it wont kill the zook

I'm talking to one of my friends making a total alloy trailer

Having had an alloy trailer I wouldn't bother offroad due to cracking. Yes, they are light but fatigue is a real issue.

cj wrote:

ofr57 wrote:biggest point i would be looking at is weight the less the better so when towing it wont kill the zook

I'm talking to one of my friends making a total alloy trailer

Having had an alloy trailer I wouldn't bother offroad due to cracking. Yes, they are light but fatigue is a real issue.

true ... this will be to do trip runs and move tyres about thats it

Yeah a 5' x 3' will hold a tent like Christover's, but it might not line up as well as his does. I think Tadpole is 5' x 3.5' from memory.

Just ordered my trailer Went with the deluxe pictured above, with some changes.

75x50x2.5 RHS drawbar with 50x50x3 EA chassis
2.1mm checkerplate floor (smooth side up)
1.6mm sides, 450 high
4 leaf slipper springs, spring over axle
14" Ford rims + tyres (incl spare), second hand
Jockey wheel
Lockable swing door rear and lockable drop-down front tailgate
All metal zincaneal treated with gloss black paint over
Rego

Total cost $1470 incl. GST, and total weight 220kg.

Going to F100 hubs would have cost around $500 extra as apparently upgraded springs, axle and guards are required.

Checkerplate floor only added 3 kilos over 1.6 rolled steel and should give the trailer a fair bit more rigidity, so I stuck with checkerplate.

sounds good.

do the diy f100 hubs for $50 when u get here?

nicbeer wrote:sounds good.

do the diy f100 hubs for $50 when u get here?

That's the plan

hey what about those plastic trailers. i dont no much about them but arent they lighter then a steel one also they would take a rough run wouldnt they? just an idea.

me217

me217 wrote:hey what about those plastic trailers. i dont no much about them but arent they lighter then a steel one also they would take a rough run wouldnt they? just an idea.

me217

plastic trailers

Looks like a very good deal to me.
Best of luck and here is some motivation

ofr57 wrote:

me217 wrote:hey what about those plastic trailers. i dont no much about them but arent they lighter then a steel one also they would take a rough run wouldnt they? just an idea.

me217

plastic trailers

the plastic pod trailers are actually very very good but a little pricey. But the construction is very good.

What weight are these "plastic" trailers? and how much $$$ is pricey?

chops_Drover wrote:What weight are these "plastic" trailers? and how much $$$ is pricey?

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Double post noob

This page says the plastic ones weigh 180kgs for just the box style

http://www.podtrailer.com/products_tub.html#

Comparable 6x4 'basic' trailer is 159kg and costs $660. Not worth the dough for the plastic IMO.

Plus if you damage the steel one you can weld it up. Plastic's a bit too single-use-only for me.

Moph wrote:Comparable 6x4 'basic' trailer is 159kg and costs $660. Not worth the dough for the plastic IMO.

Plus if you damage the steel one you can weld it up. Plastic's a bit too single-use-only for me.

they are very well made, sealable alot easier than steel, wont rust, dent or leak but the price difference is a bit. I've been looking a 2nd hand one without much luck

prolly can't find one cause they don't rust grimbo