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Best Globes
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:29 pm
by alien
Hey all
Whats the best kind of globe i can put into my standard glass front lenses??? i blew a globe and now i want MORE POWERRRR! =P
Re: Best Globes
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:34 pm
by bogged
90/140's?
Re: Best Globes
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:52 pm
by Slunnie
bogged wrote:90/140's?
Probably!
I run 90/100's with a headlight loom. Thats not a bad setup, though the 90/140's would be nice.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:08 pm
by spongerx
I used to run 90/100w globes without a loom using my stock Hilux wiring figuring that since the lights run off a relay already and the fuses were rated enuf for 100w lites why wouldn't it be a problem even if the stock wires looked suspiciously small gauge?
After about 18 months of them being in my driver's side light went out a couple times on high beam but then came back on when I hit a bump so decided to check the connection. Took forever to get the H4 connector off and then found this:
I won't be goin back to 90/100w globes until I get a loom and I gotta change the headlights themselves because the heat from the 90/100w globes has caused the rubber seals of the headlights to crystallize (which is probably due to the fact that the headlights were cheap to begin with).
Re: Best Globes
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:10 pm
by bogged
Slunnie wrote:bogged wrote:90/140's?
Probably!
I run 90/100's with a headlight loom..
the loom makes a world of difference.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:06 am
by ofr57
HID's

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:43 am
by alien
haha HID - nevermind that theyre illegal in WA...
i was ashamed to admit its for my daily - a 95 mazda 323 sedan =P
i meant the type of globe - theres various brands and styles of filaments etc available... ill go the brightest wattage i can find, but theres a whole range of globes out now and im utterly confused about which is best!
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:00 am
by nicbeer
alien wrote:haha HID - nevermind that theyre illegal in WA...
i was ashamed to admit its for my daily - a 95 mazda 323 sedan =P
i meant the type of globe - theres various brands and styles of filaments etc available... ill go the brightest wattage i can find, but theres a whole range of globes out now and im utterly confused about which is best!
95' is that a H4?.
i got 100/55 in the zook. damn nice and spread
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:20 am
by alien
no 95 is the year of manufacture =) hehe
Might make a trip to supercrap tonight and see what they've got thats not supercrap.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:09 am
by Guy
I have some new Narva one's in my magna that I reckon are great. I will find the box when I get home and post the type. They were not cheap RRP is about $70 or so.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:18 pm
by Corgie Carrier
Try some Phillips +50, they are great and have no affect on the wiring as they are still 55/65 or what ever the standard globes are.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:32 pm
by dogbreath_48
You'll probably want to use bakerlite (sp?) H4 connectors with higher wattage bulbs (along with decent wiring/relays).
I've had a good run with IPF globes. The 'fatboy' globes are good - low rated power but great ouput - not as bright at ~100 watters but offer the same amount of useable light in my opinion - and run cooler. $150 a pair though.
Mate has had a nightmare run with high power phillips globes in his 80 series.
-Stu

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:16 pm
by Corgie Carrier
The truck company I drive for only uses Phillips in all 25 trucks and in the last two years has only replaced one.
I'd tell ya mate to check his lighting circuit.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:59 pm
by dogbreath_48
Corgie Carrier wrote:The truck company I drive for only uses Phillips in all 25 trucks and in the last two years has only replaced one.
I'd tell ya mate to check his lighting circuit.
We checked, and checked, and checked

They appear to be heat damaged - i'm thinking maybe the small 80 series housing is getting too hot...
Definitely a curly one. He's since gone to the IPF fatboys with no trouble so far...
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:01 pm
by Kane
I've tried heaps of differant globes (All H4's) with up graded looms eg. 100/130 narva ect but the best by far are the Philips globes. They don't have as much wattage (don't need upgraded loom to run them but still helps) and are brighter than the higher powered globes. Vision plus (+50) are good but the newer Xtreem power are the best I've used. They are made from quarts as opposed the std glass so they hold up better in water. HID seem pretty cheap theese days if you don't care about the leagle side of things.
Cheers, Kane.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:14 pm
by micks troll
Corgie Carrier wrote:Try some Phillips +50, they are great and have no affect on the wiring as they are still 55/65 or what ever the standard globes are.
x2 on that they worked great in our 96 Honda I originally had the poofy blue lights that were around $80 and threw them out ,there crap on open country roads. The plus 50 works the best for "standard" loom etc IMO
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:57 pm
by alien
thanks guys - ill give the Phillips H4 +50s a shot!
bulbs
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:58 pm
by mick&shon
try narva artic blue h4 you wont be disapointed
cheers mick

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:09 am
by me3@neuralfibre.com
Blue tint = filter = less light.
And the human eye sux at using blue light.
OK, assuming you don't want to go HID.
With a new loom - the biggest and brightest you can get without melting your lenses.
WITHOUT a new look - 55/60 +50's
Halogens NEED 13V to maintain their output, they fall off VERY rapidly if they are fed 11.8V for example - light output will often be worse than sealed beam.
Factory wires are thin, this means more resistance, which means less voltage AT THE GLOBE WHEN IT'S RUNNING. (testing the open circuti will tell you nothing)
Halogens run the filament at mugh higher temperatures than normal globes - this evaporates the filament. The "halogen" gas (see periodic table) bonds with the evaporated metal before it coats the glass. When the gas come close to the filament, it's so hot - the metal is re-adsorbed onto the filament - often at a different spot. This is why the filaments look "rough" after a while. Sooner or later a thin spot develops and the bulb blows.
Brighter bulbs (esp. "rally" bulbs) typically have a shorter life. Big deal - I dont' mind replacing the odd globe for brighter light.
"Long Life" globes (goes for houses too) are less efficient and waste heaps of power - so the saving you make on not replacing them, you lose on the power consumption.
Finally - colour temperature.
Everyone reckons blue is "cool". And most chinese HID's dont' match their rated colour anyway, so everyone's idea of 5000K varies.
BUT - blue SUX for visibility. 4300K (real, not what is says on the box) - is about optimal. Halogens are about 3500K. Sealed beam are about 2900K.
Depends if you want to see, or be seen I guess :)
http://neuralfibre.com/paul/4wd/hir-bulbs-for-high-beam
http://neuralfibre.com/paul/4wd/ebay-ch ... 0-review-2
Most chinese HID's I know are still going strong - and at the price - you can afford to replace em.
Radio interference is the main issue I have - oh - and the boxes lying about the colour.
Paul
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:23 pm
by Guy
love_mud wrote:I have some new Narva one's in my magna that I reckon are great. I will find the box when I get home and post the type. They were not cheap RRP is about $70 or so.
They are the narva extremes, even in quite heavy rain the other night I found them quite acceptable.