Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hey all just wondering im thinking of making up a custom bar which will consist of two 2inch steel pipes that will go across the front from chassis to chassis now i was just wondering if this is legal or not because there is no bar infront of your tires btw i am in NSW the bar will end at the end of the chassis cheers

as long as there are no sharp edges, no sharp forward protrusions and the ends have a nice radius on them you should be ok.

just ask the friggin RTA. Why do people think it is a good idea to ask people on the internet about legal matters?

joeblow wrote:as long as there are no sharp edges, no sharp forward protusions and the ends have a nice radius on them you should be ok.

Yep. Joes right. Applies in NSW.

cheers for ur views on it the reason ppl ask ppl over the net is becuase most ppl out there are decent ppl who are willing to share there views on the topic and alot of zook drivers on here have been through the process of legalities so they could kno the answer to your question i think someone forgot to take there happy pills this morning yeh

joeblow wrote:you should be ok.

No offence to Joe, but that's why you ask the RTA rather than asking on the internet.

Joe should be right, but say you build it and drive down the road and get a canary- all you can say is I asked some guy on the internet and he said it should be OK.

In Victoria, Vicroads have a bulletin on an A4 sheets you can pick up from any office that explains exactly what's legal and what's not. There's stuff about permissable radii, profile etc.

Odds are the RTA in NSW have a similar thing.

Like Grimbo said, when it comes to legal matters, you really do need to ask the right people, not the opinion of anyone so you can choose the answer you want.

After all that, I am aware of cars being defected in Vic for inadequate tyre coverage from the front. in Vic.

Steve.

bornstar15 wrote:cheers for ur views on it the reason ppl ask ppl over the net is becuase most ppl out there are decent ppl who are willing to share there views on the topic and alot of zook drivers on here have been through the process of legalities so they could kno the answer to your question i think someone forgot to take there happy pills this morning yeh

asking people for legal answers is just asking for problems down the track. Asking them for tech related etc fine no problems but do you really want to take the risk with legalities especially these days?

ok well got onto rta and they said as long as there are no sharp edges, no sharp forward protrusions and the ends have to be closed in an mounted properly it should be rite thanks and yes i can see where ur coming from grimbo

good to see you got the info bornstar, now get out there and get some inspiration. and don't forget to do it neatly. if you have any specific questions just pm me, it helps that i sit on my arse designing these very things for a living now

A little off topic, but in nsw, most of the information you will require regarding legalities can be found here:

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... i_dl1.html

and here

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... e_dl1.html

Hope this helps

maybe instead of worrying about if the bull bar is legal
we should run a poll
Does GRIMBO get enough fiber in his diet
what a grumpy ahole

This bar is custom and legal in WA:


My engineer says basically as long as if you hit a person laterally theyre deflected to the sides of the car, the tyre doesnt have to be covered at the front - it's their own bad luck if they go under the wheel... lol

nice bar alien
looks like appoach angle is awsome

nice and curvy.....though it won't pass without the roller taken off orcovered with a soft material.

That's a nice lookin bar Joe! Did you make it?
Wanting something very similar for my coily, yes i own a coily!
If your interested in makin one for me (I have next to no fab skills ) for some $$ p.m me with a price.

i'll pm some pics of a better one i'll have coming out in a couple of months.

ajsr wrote:maybe instead of worrying about if the bull bar is legal
we should run a poll
Does GRIMBO get enough fiber in his diet
what a grumpy ahole

or maybe we could run a poll are newbies just getting stupidier

grimbo wrote:

ajsr wrote:maybe instead of worrying about if the bull bar is legal
we should run a poll
Does GRIMBO get enough fiber in his diet
what a grumpy ahole

or maybe we could run a poll are newbies just getting stupidier

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic150784.php

joeblow wrote:i'll pm some pics of a better one i'll have coming out in a couple of months.

for a sierra? id be keen to see these pics!

yes, cad pics. will be for leaf sierra with body lift only, coily with or without body lift. i'll add you to the list to dee.

im just building my custom bar now ill put up picks when i actually start welding. but im also planning on doing RUF at the same time.
so what i was thinking is doing a bolt on bullbar/chassis extension. does any body know exactly how long the chassis extension needs to be? or how far forward to move the hanger?
thanks

lexplay wrote:im just building my custom bar now ill put up picks when i actually start welding. but im also planning on doing RUF at the same time.
so what i was thinking is doing a bolt on bullbar/chassis extension. does any body know exactly how long the chassis extension needs to be? or how far forward to move the hanger?
thanks

Depending on what springs you use, shackle length you want, and what angle you want, i think you can get away with 40mm or so.

Layto....

cheers lay80n i thought it would depend on shackle length and things like that. yea i think a bit of 50mm bar will be sweet then ill just wled the hanger to suit.