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[QUOTE=Heff 4.8]Just opened up my 4wd custom action mag from 4wd monthly.
On page 12 under readers letters, a guy from S.A asks a question about tyre size and legalities and the answer recieved was this-

For this question we went straight to the experts. Ryano from fourbys tyres in marooka:
Unfortunately, S.A is in the same boat as QLD in the tyre sizing ADR's and only allow a 15mm increase in OD. We have learnt recently that QLD will be adopting the National Legislation of 50mm on the 1st of january 2009.

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confirmation ryano?

Yep.
We were alerted a few months ago that the national legislation (which has been adopted by other states) will be used in QLD as of the 1st January 2009.
Part of this is the increased OD from 15mm to 50mm.

Cheers,
Ryano

Finally QLD is coming to the party

Below is the link. Go to NOPC11 top of page 16.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... _ncop.aspx

cheers for that mate

Ryano wrote:Yep.
We were alerted a few months ago that the national legislation (which has been adopted by other states) will be used in QLD as of the 1st January 2009.
Part of this is the increased OD from 15mm to 50mm.

Cheers,
Ryano

Sounds great Ryano! Means 285x75r16's will be legal on my 80!
P.S. Did you get my PM?

Lookout fellas, there is gonna be a flood of QLD reigs being modified

Does this include SPOA?

Ryano wrote:Yep.
We were alerted a few months ago that the national legislation (which has been adopted by other states) will be used in QLD as of the 1st January 2009.
Part of this is the increased OD from 15mm to 50mm.

Cheers,
Ryano

Alerted by who? This was comming in at least 5 years ago on Jan 1st. Im not holding my breath.

RUFF wrote:

Ryano wrote:Yep.
We were alerted a few months ago that the national legislation (which has been adopted by other states) will be used in QLD as of the 1st January 2009.
Part of this is the increased OD from 15mm to 50mm.

Cheers,
Ryano

Alerted by who? This was comming in at least 5 years ago on Jan 1st. Im not holding my breath.

MTAQ. (Motor Traders Association of QLD)
They have been working in conjunction with the DOT since the changes were being looked at.
I have also since spoken to another guy who has a contact fairly well up in the DOT and have been told the same thing by him.

does this also apply to other items such as lift up to 4" i think etc etc?

benhl wrote:does this also apply to other items such as lift up to 4" i think etc etc?

are you lifting your vehicle 4" by using a tyre? If not then no probably not

i think he was asking weather qld is adopting the complete national code of practice, which allows the bigger lift, or if they are only taking on the tyre size changes.

i can't wait to grave dig this in ANOTHER 5 years!

1MadEngineer wrote:i can't wait to grave dig this in ANOTHER 5 years!

was thinking the same thing

about time... another fixup from that oxygen wasting useless piece of shit peter beate

I take it you don't vote....

Beattie retired months ago.....

this might be a stupid question but, you seem to see more cars from nsw etc. with 37's and 38's. if you can still only increase your diamater by 50mm from standard how can you have 38's. or is it just done illegaly?

Dominator wrote:this might be a stupid question but, you seem to see more cars from nsw etc. with 37's and 38's. if you can still only increase your diamater by 50mm from standard how can you have 38's. or is it just done illegaly?

what about engine capacity increases?

86MUD wrote:I take it you don't vote....

Beattie retired months ago.....

yes i do and so what if he retired months ago... it will take alot of time to fix his incompitency up. i recon he only retired coz he reliased that all the shit he ignored finally caught up to him so he just quit and let someone alse fix it up. u can prob tell i hate that ugly mf with a passion...

Dominator wrote:this might be a stupid question but, you seem to see more cars from nsw etc. with 37's and 38's. if you can still only increase your diamater by 50mm from standard how can you have 38's. or is it just done illegaly?

I think you'll find it's got to do with engineering. You cannot, no matter want AFAIK get engineered for larger tyres in QLD. But in NSW I think you have 50mm then larger you must get engineer approval

GRPABT1 wrote:

Dominator wrote:this might be a stupid question but, you seem to see more cars from nsw etc. with 37's and 38's. if you can still only increase your diamater by 50mm from standard how can you have 38's. or is it just done illegaly?

I think you'll find it's got to do with engineering. You cannot, no matter want AFAIK get engineered for larger tyres in QLD. But in NSW I think you have 50mm then larger you must get engineer approval

no third party engineer in qld can approve a tyre increase of more than 15mm (they dont even need to approve a 15mm increase, this is a self approved mod)

You could however, write to the engineers at QLD transport, and ask them to approve your 38" tyres. Its well within thier powers to do so, but the answer will be no.

Shadow wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:You cannot, no matter want AFAIK get engineered for larger tyres in QLD.

no third party engineer in qld can approve a tyre increase of more than 15mm (they dont even need to approve a 15mm increase, this is a self approved mod)

You could however, write to the engineers at QLD transport, and ask them to approve your 38" tyres. Its well within thier powers to do so, but the answer will be no.

This is how it was when I was there. No large tyres, no discussion, end of story. But people wanted them, so they just went ahead and fitted them. Gee, I'll bet nobody could have guessed that would happen.

So, rather than introduce a process which allows some measure of control over what size of tyres are fitted and how, Qld Transport have ensured people just go ahead and fit whatever they want, however they want - zero control over what actually hits the roads.

Brilliant!

-Scott- wrote:

Shadow wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:You cannot, no matter want AFAIK get engineered for larger tyres in QLD.

no third party engineer in qld can approve a tyre increase of more than 15mm (they dont even need to approve a 15mm increase, this is a self approved mod)

You could however, write to the engineers at QLD transport, and ask them to approve your 38" tyres. Its well within thier powers to do so, but the answer will be no.

This is how it was when I was there. No large tyres, no discussion, end of story. But people wanted them, so they just went ahead and fitted them. Gee, I'll bet nobody could have guessed that would happen.

So, rather than introduce a process which allows some measure of control over what size of tyres are fitted and how, Qld Transport have ensured people just go ahead and fit whatever they want, however they want - zero control over what actually hits the roads.

Brilliant!

they did introduce a process, QLD Modification Guidlines, available as a booklet at all qld transport service centers. In this guidline it allows people to increase the diameter 15mm bigger than the tyre placard says.

People will always break the law, we shouldnt change the law to stop people breaking it...

Does that mean 35" tyres will be legal in Qld next year

legsx1 wrote:Does that mean 35" tyres will be legal in Qld next year

not on a datsun 120y

but maybe on something that comes standard with 33" tyres

I would take this news with a grain of salt, QLD has been going to adopt the NCOP for 5 years as ruff and others have mentioned.

I spoke to a QLD transport officer on thursday and he did not know anything about it, but said it is possible.

Shadow wrote:People will always break the law, we shouldnt change the law to stop people breaking it...

Well, that's another argument altogether. If a clear majority of the population disapproves of a law, that suggests it is at odds with community standards. If community standards are different to those enshrined by law, we shouldn't change it?

Adultery?

Fornication?

Gay rights?

The civil rights protests of the '60s. Conscription - conscientious objection?

Our laws are supposed to reflect the standards of the community, not the other way around. 4wd tyre size is not the ultimate example of the concept, but I believe your argument is simply wrong.

-Scott- wrote:

Shadow wrote:People will always break the law, we shouldnt change the law to stop people breaking it...

Well, that's another argument altogether. If a clear majority of the population disapproves of a law, that suggests it is at odds with community standards. If community standards are different to those enshrined by law, we shouldn't change it?

Adultery?

Fornication?

Gay rights?

The civil rights protests of the '60s. Conscription - conscientious objection?

Our laws are supposed to reflect the standards of the community, not the other way around. 4wd tyre size is not the ultimate example of the concept, but I believe your argument is simply wrong.

tax??

Fuel tax would be abolished in an instant, as would plenty of other laws.

Rego?

the majority of people on the road do not want to drive nexto a car with 38" tyres lifted 10" in the air. The majority of drivers are intimidated by such vehicles. Trucks scare alot of motorists, but are of course a necessary thing. A modified 4wd used for extreme offroad driving is not a necessary thing and in my opinion, as a 4wd owner, should not be sharing the roads with normal cars.

If you want 38" tyres and a 10" lift, get a trailer.

Shadow wrote:

-Scott- wrote:

Shadow wrote:People will always break the law, we shouldnt change the law to stop people breaking it...

Well, that's another argument altogether. If a clear majority of the population disapproves of a law, that suggests it is at odds with community standards. If community standards are different to those enshrined by law, we shouldn't change it?

Adultery?

Fornication?

Gay rights?

The civil rights protests of the '60s. Conscription - conscientious objection?

Our laws are supposed to reflect the standards of the community, not the other way around. 4wd tyre size is not the ultimate example of the concept, but I believe your argument is simply wrong.

tax??

tax is a stupid argument. it cost money to run the country. sure lets all stop paying it. then everyone will winge when nothing is kept up to standard and nothing new is done or built

brad-chevlux wrote:

Shadow wrote:

-Scott- wrote:

Shadow wrote:People will always break the law, we shouldnt change the law to stop people breaking it...

Well, that's another argument altogether. If a clear majority of the population disapproves of a law, that suggests it is at odds with community standards. If community standards are different to those enshrined by law, we shouldn't change it?

Adultery?

Fornication?

Gay rights?

The civil rights protests of the '60s. Conscription - conscientious objection?

Our laws are supposed to reflect the standards of the community, not the other way around. 4wd tyre size is not the ultimate example of the concept, but I believe your argument is simply wrong.

tax??

tax is a stupid argument. it cost money to run the country. sure lets all stop paying it. then everyone will winge when nothing is kept up to standard and nothing new is done or built

how many poeple would vote to get rid of certain taxes? They certainly wouldnt vote to increase them.

Whilst all sane people realise tax is a necessity, the majority would probably vote to remove the fuel tax's, Who would vote to increase tax's??