Outer Limits 4x4 Board

What Rims is best and for what? I have recently purchased a 4runner and it has smaller wider rims on the truck and it has larger narrower rims in the boot. whats rims should i run? I'll put new tyres on what ever i choose. Mind you the spare is the same size as the ones in the boot.

question two: can i can a larger spare with the smaller ones? what effect would there be if I needed to do a tyre change? thanks Guys I know there is somebody out there with answers to my problems

I would go 15's .. cheap / easy to get

ofr57 wrote:I would go 15's .. cheap / easy to get

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AJFeroza wrote:

ofr57 wrote:I would go 15's .. cheap / easy to get

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Q2) No you cannot can a larger spare ...

what?

anyway, I'm going to suggest a 16" rim.

Generally, 16" rims run narrower and squarer tyres that work better off road, and a 16" rim means more predictable off road handling, especially at low pressure.

I've run lots of 15's and lots of 16's and I'm leaning towards the 16's ATM.

Steve.

coxy321 wrote:

AJFeroza wrote:

ofr57 wrote:I would go 15's .. cheap / easy to get

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But narrow tyres are underrated, especially in mud.

chimpboy wrote:

coxy321 wrote:

AJFeroza wrote:

ofr57 wrote:I would go 15's .. cheap / easy to get

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Cheap, yes.

Easy to get? Depends on where.

I believe 16" tyres are more common in remote areas these days. This question is no different to most which get asked here - the answer really depends on what you want to do with your 4by.

It seems like the 15's is the most common opinion and maybe the 16's And also I was asked about what it is i want to do. "I want to drive due west to Cameron Corner turn south and then East and make it all the way safely. I guess thats mostly on the "Black" but some rough stuff like the cut line from Bourke via Wannaring are going to be a bit dodge. So I want to know what tyre size will do all that. I have AT tires just now.

Eddy wrote:Q2) No you cannot can a larger spare ...

Eddy thanks for the Q2 answer, Are you saying I can not use a larger rim as the spare? I don't know what size I'm running all I know is I measure the rims on the truck and they measure 41cm across, I measure the spares and they are 44cm across,

ARE YOU SAYING NO! to this? you mean I should have the same size rims 100%

Can anyone answer this for me. thanks Eddy

Michael

I've never run a matching spare until last year.

If it's to get you out of a track or something, no problem - it doesn't really matter what size the spare is.

If it's for long distance, put the mismatched spare on the front and unlock the hubs.

I carry a tubeless repair kit, air, and don't need to use the spare very often.

for remote travel you really want 16" rims. It's much easier to find 7.50 16 tyres in remote areas than 15" sizes, and as an example 7.50 16's are less damage prone, take less power to push, work better in sandy conditions (yes, really) and have much stronger sidewalls than 15's.

Just my 2C.

Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote:I've never run a matching spare until last year.

If it's to get you out of a track or something, no problem - it doesn't really matter what size the spare is.

If it's for long distance, put the mismatched spare on the front and unlock the hubs.

I carry a tubeless repair kit, air, and don't need to use the spare very often.

for remote travel you really want 16" rims. It's much easier to find 7.50 16 tyres in remote areas than 15" sizes, and as an example 7.50 16's are less damage prone, take less power to push, work better in sandy conditions (yes, really) and have much stronger sidewalls than 15's.

Just my 2C.

Steve.

Tubeless repair kit now this sounds like a good solution. I'm going to look into that I guess if i do have some of those I need not carry the second spare i was going to stick on the roof. I have a full set of the larger Rims (44cm across) I might re boot those with a good AT and take those instead of the smaller ones. Thank you! Steve. Hmmm now I may need to find good sand dirt A/T

MnG2guys wrote:It seems like the 15's is the most common opinion and maybe the 16's And also I was asked about what it is i want to do. "I want to drive due west to Cameron Corner turn south and then East and make it all the way safely. I guess thats mostly on the "Black" but some rough stuff like the cut line from Bourke via Wannaring are going to be a bit dodge. So I want to know what tyre size will do all that. I have AT tires just now.

If your primary interest is remote area touring I would recommend 265/75-16 in something like MT/R / STT / MTZ. Very high load rating, and (the last time I asked) this is the most common size of tyre shipped to remote areas.

I've been out to Cameron Corner / Innamincka / north Flinders / Simpson Desert using MT/Rs and STTs, and never had so much as a slow leak. On the Simpson trip the only vehicle to have tyre trouble was the only one on 15" tyres.

Decent tyres, sensible pressures, sensible speed and a puncture repair kit, and you're unlikely to need your spare. In the (highly unlikely) event that you need to buy a replacement tyre out there you'll be happy to find something in the same size, regardless of pattern - and 265/75-16 gives you good odds.

-Scott- wrote:

MnG2guys wrote:
Decent tyres, sensible pressures, sensible speed and a puncture repair kit, and you're unlikely to need your spare. In the (highly unlikely) event that you need to buy a replacement tyre out there you'll be happy to find something in the same size, regardless of pattern - and 265/75-16 gives you good odds.

Thanks guys: I have been well educated from this post and the informative replies. I'm in a position now where I Know what I have got; I've 15's on the rig and 16's in the shed and a 16 spare underneath the rig. The rubber on the 16's is not good and this month i can not afford the new rubber due to lots of 4x4 purchases so I've decided to take this short trip on the 15's and over the coming months reboot the 16s to be my main wheels again. we have a trip along the Frenches line (Simpson desert this coming April and this immediate trip is just the reconnaissance run to test the vehicle (and driver). Yesterday I got the tubeless repair kit $40 from TJM with steel handle tools. and today I'm going to practice some on those old 16's to become proficient at puncher repairs. LOL anyway the wisdom of the group has been apparent and we shall be more prepared. thanks for your wisdom guys.
MnG
P.S. I must chat to some of you guys that have done the Simpson already I'll want some insight on driving there.

Are the 16 inch wheels split rims or tubeless type?

Why not keep the 15's for road use and buy some super agressive muddies for the 16's?

-Scott- wrote:

MnG2guys wrote:It seems like the 15's is the most common opinion and maybe the 16's And also I was asked about what it is i want to do. "I want to drive due west to Cameron Corner turn south and then East and make it all the way safely. I guess thats mostly on the "Black" but some rough stuff like the cut line from Bourke via Wannaring are going to be a bit dodge. So I want to know what tyre size will do all that. I have AT tires just now.

If your primary interest is remote area touring I would recommend 265/75-16 in something like MT/R / STT / MTZ. Very high load rating, and (the last time I asked) this is the most common size of tyre shipped to remote areas.

I've been out to Cameron Corner / Innamincka / north Flinders / Simpson Desert using MT/Rs and STTs, and never had so much as a slow leak. On the Simpson trip the only vehicle to have tyre trouble was the only one on 15" tyres.

Decent tyres, sensible pressures, sensible speed and a puncture repair kit, and you're unlikely to need your spare. In the (highly unlikely) event that you need to buy a replacement tyre out there you'll be happy to find something in the same size, regardless of pattern - and 265/75-16 gives you good odds.

Gotta agree!

Thats pretty much what i'm leaning towards 265/75 16's in MT/R's for touring, generally the 16's are a touch dearer than a 15 but are more often than not an LT tyre and hence have a higher ply rating and load rating, which in theory should mean they are tougher and less likely to puncture, also in diameter they are the same as a 7.5x16 and 235/85x16 - all pretty common sizes.
You could go bigger diameter but that may affect economy and not give a big advantage in capability for touring?!

Zeyphly wrote:Are the 16 inch wheels split rims or tubeless type?

The 16's are tubeless mate, no split rims here but I have seen how there can be an advantage if there was