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hey guys, was out fourbying on the weekend, engine got hot and didnt realise, resulting in it running really rough and blowingn heaps of white smoke, trailered it home started it agin it knocked a bit when first started then ran ok but still a bit of white smoke, where should i look first and what are my best options for getting it repaired?

I am not sure what you have broken, but in Gladdy I found a diesel place over in Barney Point but I can't remember their name they did some work on my 1HZ and they are great.

Before you take it though, run the motor and pop the radiator cap off and see if it is bubbling or an oily film is present in the water. PM me if you don't have any success or need a hand to figure it out.

If it is dead, I just removed a perfectly good 1HZ from my 100 series to put in a 1HDT I am willing to let go for quite cheap.

Check your vitals.
ie water and oil.
Best to change the oil if you think the cooling system is ok.

Get a co test done of the coolant, to check for any combustion gasses in the coolant, which will show if youve done a head/ gasket.

Sometimes your lucky.
if you can run it without it overheating, or pressurising the cooling system, you may be ok.

Trains

Sounds like head gasket. Start up and open your radiator cap. Look for bubbles/oil.

rito cheers guys, we did take the radiator cap off when we got home and checked it and it didnt seem to be bubbling and checked oil and it hasnt gone milky, ive done what kramer has suggested and its already booked in to the mob over barney point they are called gladstone diesel services, will find out tomorow how much money i have to spend to get it ready for the a fourby comp in 3 weeks time, once again thanks guys

my turbo 1hz did the exact same thing a while ago. when it was hot it was blowing smoke and when i took the oil filler cap off it had heaps of blow by but once it cooled down it was fine.
it was like it got so hot that the rings stopped sealing or something. at the time i thought i had cracked a piston or broken a ring.

it's been perfect since.

Mosko111 wrote:rito cheers guys, we did take the radiator cap off when we got home and checked it and it didnt seem to be bubbling and checked oil and it hasnt gone milky, ive done what kramer has suggested and its already booked in to the mob over barney point they are called gladstone diesel services, will find out tomorow how much money i have to spend to get it ready for the a fourby comp in 3 weeks time, once again thanks guys

Are you competing in the CQ offroad challenge? If you are I will have to come say hi

yeah mate surely am, got the cruiser back from the mechanices, they rekon its not getting cooled enough with just the engine run fan, so i mite have to pull the air con cooler out to get more air in there, and yeah im doing the cq offroad, i own the 75 series cab on the 80 series chasis hybrid, with custom offroad stickers on the doors, are you competing kramer? or just heading up for a looksie?

Sweet truck I know it nah not competing just there to drink beer and socialise, I have a heap of mates from Mackay coming down and some more friends from Bundy who are competing.

So let me get this right, you've had the car for a while now I assume without any heating issues and all of a sudden it's over heating and some knob has told you to pull the A/C condensor

If the ac condensor has been there from the start, how come its an issue now I think not

Do yourself a favour and pull the radiator and have it cleaned or replaced. They fill up inside and also on the lower section outside from grass seeds etc. Renew the radiator cap too.

Replace the theromstat and while your there, remove the pump and check it for play. There should be no lateral play, if there is just replace it.

The engine fan is the best way to keep your engine cool. When you spin the fan blade (with the engine off) it should only move a a few blades before stopping. If it spins easily, renewing the viscous fluid in the fan clutch will ensure it works properly.

Now your cooling system is working 100%, get it pressure tested for leaks and this may reveal a cracked head gasket. if not your good to roll.

The factory temp gause had a massive dead spot in it so the average driver doesn't panic every time it moves. Unfortunately in most cases by the time it does move and the driver spots it, it's too late. Fitting a quality after market gause will give you piece of mind as will fitting a temperature alarm in the top hose.

Removing the AC condensor will be a complete waste of time

guzzla wrote:So let me get this right, you've had the car for a while now I assume without any heating issues and all of a sudden it's over heating and some knob has told you to pull the A/C condensor

If the ac condensor has been there from the start, how come its an issue now I think not

Do yourself a favour and pull the radiator and have it cleaned or replaced. They fill up inside and also on the lower section outside from grass seeds etc. Renew the radiator cap too.

Replace the theromstat and while your there, remove the pump and check it for play. There should be no lateral play, if there is just replace it.

The engine fan is the best way to keep your engine cool. When you spin the fan blade (with the engine off) it should only move a a few blades before stopping. If it spins easily, renewing the viscous fluid in the fan clutch will ensure it works properly.

Now your cooling system is working 100%, get it pressure tested for leaks and this may reveal a cracked head gasket. if not your good to roll.

The factory temp gause had a massive dead spot in it so the average driver doesn't panic every time it moves. Unfortunately in most cases by the time it does move and the driver spots it, it's too late. Fitting a quality after market gause will give you piece of mind as will fitting a temperature alarm in the top hose.

Removing the AC condensor will be a complete waste of time

He's on the money!

Good one for you mum to answer Troy. Drive it until it melts.

pootrollin wrote:Good one for you mum to answer Troy. Drive it until it melts.

oooo Owened i'd say Mind you when the ballancer broke on mine I was already watching it like a hawk because i thought something was up and all of a sudden up she went as soon a it budged i shut it down lucky i did as the water pump wasn't turning

pootrollin wrote:Good one for you mum to answer Troy. Drive it until it melts.

Hey Phil...
Its a Toyota mate

dow50r wrote:

pootrollin wrote:Good one for you mum to answer Troy. Drive it until it melts.

Hey Phil...
Its a Toyota mate

You saw Troys mum did to her Toyota engine. Melted it.

yeah cheers guzzla, going to get the radiator flushed during the week and i did get a test done and nothing came up on fumes in the radiator or whatever it is they find, went fourbying today and drove pretty hard, but i made a lot lot bigger effort to keep an eye on the guage and it was fine the whole time, im just guessing its because of the amount of revs and having the turbo fully spooled up with the engine work harding with the numerous attempts at the long hills just got it really hot and because i was to busy trying not to hit a tree or roll it that i wasnt able to notice and pull up before it got so hot

Someone has already said it but check your fan clutch. It may not be fully shag but starting to ciause problems. Even run a good thermo may help to.