Outer Limits 4x4 Board

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Who is using tj jeep leafs in thier zook partiularly in spoa
whats it like and is it worth the hassle?
pretty popular in the US and looks like flex is awesome or is it usual Yankee wank?
can it be done in a narrow track as all US sierra's(samurai's) are wt
thanks andrew

TJ Jeeps are coil sprung so not possible you may be thinking of the YJ kit. There are a couple of people on here using the kit but with feroza springs I believe. The hardest part is getting the YJ springs.

opps my bad grimbo ment YJ springs(leaf springs)

YJ's are easy to get arb sells them. (ive got the part number around somewhere if you need it).

Im running hilux front leaves all round in mine - see link to "The UFO" below...

how do you find the hilux springs alien?
how close is the length to jeep?
are they alright in spoa?

the springs are great - very flexy, ran almost flat with one leaf removed - not sure how close to jeep length but theyre 120mm longer than a zuk rear. and they can only be run in SPOA cos they are so flat...

Mine's engineered with them too - passed the lane change test etc.

how much did you have to extend the chassis
whats required to fit these alien?
are u using lux in both ends?

hilux fronts in front and rear with the load leaf removed... so all 4 wheels flex about the same.

Chassis extension is about 120mm. New perches (hilux ones) are welded to the chassis, standard SPOA treatment on the diffs (old perches gone and new ones on top). After that its shock mounts, bump stops, shocks, brake lines, steering arms (and tierod/draglink), modify exhaust to clear springs and tyres on compression, beef up tcase and add tcase gears etc etc...

The lift itself also required the addition of a x-member on the chassis for the rear shocks to mount to, and the chassis extension required a lot of fish plating and bracing, its now the strongest part on my chassis, put it that way =)

If you're thinking of doing it, contact an auto-engineer (im sure your local licensing place has a list of engineers, mine did)... talk to the engineer about whats possible and what he'd like done to make it pass his inspections and be a roadworthy (ie safe) rig...

alien wrote:the springs are great - very flexy, ran almost flat with one leaf removed - not sure how close to jeep length but theyre 120mm longer than a zuk rear. and they can only be run in SPOA cos they are so flat...

Mine's engineered with them too - passed the lane change test etc.

My brothers ute runs lux fronts in the rear SPUA, almost flat. Flexes real well.


Layto....

really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.

alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.

Its a ute - no panels there On 33 boggers.



Layto....

Low is the new lift and bumpstops are the new flex.... You're so yesterday Alien

Steve.

lay80n wrote:

alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.

Its a ute - no panels there On 33 boggers.



Layto....

that ute is just evil lay80

lay80n wrote:

alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.

Its a ute - no panels there On 33 boggers.



Layto....

Is there much drama with the rear shackles catching when dropping off ledges?

And on the subject of jeep leaves, I've always wanted to combine these two kits:

http://www.rocky-road.com/yjkit.html

http://www.bc4x4.com/inthenews/default.cfm?ID=138

GRPABT1 wrote:

lay80n wrote:

alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.

Its a ute - no panels there On 33 boggers.



Layto....

Is there much drama with the rear shackles catching when dropping off ledges?

And on the subject of jeep leaves, I've always wanted to combine these two kits:

http://www.rocky-road.com/yjkit.html

http://www.bc4x4.com/inthenews/default.cfm?ID=138

Yeah, they do catch. I am going to re-drill the spring pads to shuffle the axle back another inch when my brother and i get some time. It wont be a big improvement, but every little bit helps. My black WT is SPOA with 40mm longer shackes in the rear. Much better for ledges.

Layto....

lay80n wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:

lay80n wrote:

alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.

Its a ute - no panels there On 33 boggers.



Layto....

Is there much drama with the rear shackles catching when dropping off ledges?

And on the subject of jeep leaves, I've always wanted to combine these two kits:

http://www.rocky-road.com/yjkit.html

http://www.bc4x4.com/inthenews/default.cfm?ID=138

Yeah, they do catch. I am going to re-drill the spring pads to shuffle the axle back another inch when my brother and i get some time. It wont be a big improvement, but every little bit helps. My black WT is SPOA with 40mm longer shackes in the rear. Much better for ledges.

Layto....

I'm just thinking flex can give way to other problems. In this case it's the rear getting hung up. Hence why I went with 3/4 elliptic in the rear to match my front flex without compensating load carrying ability. My departure angle is better than your brother's already and I have plan to move the axle back 2 inches.

I have been looking at ways to make the angle better, it isnt that bad now, the photo actually looks worse than it is. The axle is already back 5 inches front standard due to the lux springs, when it gets moved back a bit more by re-drilling the perches i dont think it will be that bad. I tyink we have Hi-Jacked the thread though

Layto....

just been looking at the rocky reoad site for jeep springs
have a look at the rear shot
those shackles dont hang out much
how did they get round it
jeep springs are ive heard 175 mm longer in the rear

hey ajsr

Yes as far as i know using TJ /high lux in a narrow track will be fine. there wont be much difference. Actually now i think about it it may be easier because making the new mounts wont be as hard to make; if your trying to keep your diffs in the same position.

alien " and they can only be run in SPOA cos they are so flat..."

Gwagensteve wrote:Low is the new lift and bumpstops are the new flex.... You're so yesterday Alien

Steve.

x2

ajsr wrote:just been looking at the rocky reoad site for jeep springs
have a look at the rear shot
those shackles dont hang out much
how did they get round it
jeep springs are ive heard 175 mm longer in the rear

They move the front spring mount forward too.

Layto....