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Lokka diffs?? Any good in front.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:25 pm
by phil94delica
Hi.

I am toying with the idea of fitting a lokka auto diff to the front and a LSD to the rear of my delica.

Be honest, is this a waste of time and money??

Are lokka diffs any good in the front??

Would I be better off just fitting a arb air locker to the rear and forgetting about the front??

Any info would be appriciated.

(ps its not your everyday delica so its not completely useless off road)

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:45 pm
by twocs
I posted a similar Q. Front or rear air locker for the Prado. And after asking around a bit more, I'm almost convinced to go front...

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:45 pm
by GUte
Do a search.
You'll be suprised by the hits.

Al.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:10 pm
by coxy321
Yes, they are good. I have one and i think its great.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:16 pm
by Emo
Isn't the Delica full time 4wd? If so I don't think you can fit a Lokka to the front.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:29 pm
by phil94delica
The delica has the same super select gear as a pajerio of the same era. It has 2wd with those silly vacuum operated front disengaging things. It is possible to fit manual front hubs which I guess I would have to do if I fitted a auto locker??

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:47 pm
by -Scott-
Emo wrote:Isn't the Delica full time 4wd?
phil94delica wrote:The delica has the same super select gear as a pajerio of the same era.
Emo wrote:If so I don't think you can fit a Lokka to the front.
Of course you can. It makes wet roads really exciting. :D
phil94delica wrote:It is possible to fit manual front hubs which I guess I would have to do if I fitted a auto locker??
That would be my advice. You can run 2wd without the manual hubs, because the disconnect in the front axle effectively isolates the locker. However, the front left wheel will be driving the crown wheel, pinion and front prop shaft the whole time, nominally increasing fuel consumption.

The issue is engaging 4H (not 4HLc) on high traction surfaces, when the locking and unlocking of the front diff can have unpredictable effects on steering. So you effectively lose the benefit of being able to run 4wd on high traction surfaces.

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:51 pm
by chpd80
Its only unpredictable for the first ten minutes until you get used to it.
Go the front first. :) [/quote]

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:16 pm
by -Scott-
chpd80 wrote:Its only unpredictable for the first ten minutes until you get used to it.
Go the front first. :)
How long have you been running a front autolocker? In what?

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:41 pm
by mk_mike
auto locker in the front of mine. rear lsd. mind you i think i would like the option of disengaging the locker if i wanted to. snapped my first cv last weekend :lol:

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:23 pm
by chpd80
chpd80 wrote:
Its only unpredictable for the first ten minutes until you get used to it.
Go the front first.


How long have you been running a front autolocker? In what?

Ran Front Auto Lokka and rear Air Locker in 80 series for over 2 years with 35" ET's. Drove it hard (except in reverse) and never broke anything.
I Loved the fact you could drive a hard track with the front locked and if the track turned you simply could unlike an air locker witch must be turned off then back on for the next bit.
I have done swithcbacks in the high country with really tight 180 degree turns and it unlocked everytime without fail.
It honestly only takes 10 minutes to get used to the new feel once you have fitted one. Its only people with air lockers who whinge about the feeling of it. Ohh and they wont leak air :D
At the end of the day they both lock both wheels and they are both really good products. Auto lockers DONT break CV's if they are set up right and Air Locker dont have to leak (mine didnt after the A%& Store fixed their first attempt.)
Thats my 1.5 cents worth. :D

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:38 pm
by mk_mike
chpd80 wrote:
chpd80 wrote:
Its only unpredictable for the first ten minutes until you get used to it.
Go the front first.


How long have you been running a front autolocker? In what?

......Auto lockers DONT break CV's if they are set up right .......
how do you mean set up right?

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:19 pm
by chpd80
The tolerences between the sides of the locker must be the same on each side so it seperates evenly, I have heard of some dramas with incorrect fitting, someone will probably have a better explanaition of the tech side of it though. :lol: