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I curently own a bundera and looking to buy a gq shorty, I have found a nice one but it has an auto box. how well does the auto go off road.

Cheers for your info

Damien wrote:I curently own a bundera and looking to buy a gq shorty, I have found a nice one but it has an auto box. how well does the auto go off road.

Cheers for your info

Awesome, you wont regret buying one.
Plenty of threads on it, but yea, they are better offroad than manuals.

Loved mine so much, converted the GU to auto

and no need for a flame suit.

Thanks for you reply,
I dont mean to be a pain in the arse but i looked thru the first 13 pages of nissan tech stuff but couldnt find any threads if you could point me in the right direction that would be great if you dont want to i will keep lookin any way

Cheers

iv got an auto in my shorty and it rocks!
would never go back to a manual

X10000000.

I always said i would never have an auto, and i'm now on my 4th 4X4
This is my first auto, and i dont know why i didn't get one sooner. and after taking it offroad, i'll never look back.

Great in traffic too.

Thanks guys!!! i might be a patrol owner very soon.

the only place an auto will let you down is going down hill as there is little or no engine braking.......everywhere else it wins hands down. Also allows you to be a lot gentler on the running gear.

Ive had an auto for near 3 years and love it... in fact im keeping it auto even tho im putting a V8 in

jtraf wrote:the only place an auto will let you down is going down hill as there is little or no engine braking.......everywhere else it wins hands down. Also allows you to be a lot gentler on the running gear.

I put reduction gears 85% to help with decents. I now have to accelerate down hill depending on the grade.

If it wasnt for the PTO winch I want to fit. I would be staying auto. I find the auto in my shorty is awsome off-road.
If I was to keep it though I would be fitting a temp guage and a valve body like what Extreme autos sell.
That and probably a better oil cooler. Mines been good with the std coolers though.

turps wrote:If it wasnt for the PTO winch I want to fit. I would be staying auto. .

didnt know you couldnt fit the PTO to the auto. :( thats a bitch. Is it the Thomas one?

bogged wrote:

turps wrote:If it wasnt for the PTO winch I want to fit. I would be staying auto. .

didnt know you couldnt fit the PTO to the auto. :( thats a bitch. Is it the Thomas one?

Nah factory Nissan GQ PTO. I did have a Thomas PTO winch on my old blue shorty.
The PTO fits onto the front of the gearbox. As opposed to MK/Q, LandRover and all Toy's, as they have the PTO mounted to the transfercase.
This is why GQ's and the very rare GU's only had fwd and rev on there pto winches. Where as the others select there winch speed via the gearbox (ie 1st-5th). Not sure if the transfercase hi/lo would affect winch speed though.

So with the others it would be possible to have an auto in front of the transfercase and have a PTO winch.

If you have a PTO on a manual GQ, the faster the gear you select (1st to 5th, the faster the PTO works), it works off the mainshaft speed which increases as the gears are selected. that's why you put the transfer into Neutral and run it off the winch if you want to winch. if you have the gearbox in neutral and the PTO engaged and just let the clutch off, it does nothing, you need gears to make it work

MyGQ wrote:If you have a PTO on a manual GQ, the faster the gear you select (1st to 5th, the faster the PTO works), it works off the mainshaft speed which increases as the gears are selected. that's why you put the transfer into Neutral and run it off the winch if you want to winch. if you have the gearbox in neutral and the PTO engaged and just let the clutch off, it does nothing, you need gears to make it work

x2.

And you both will be incorrect. The PTO on a GQ is only fwd and rev and does not matter what gear is selected in either the gearbox or transfercase.

Somo days I wonder why I bother typing shit on the internet.

turps wrote:And you both will be incorrect. The PTO on a GQ is only fwd and rev and does not matter what gear is selected in either the gearbox or transfercase.

Somo days I wonder why I bother typing shit on the internet.

because some of us listen and try to understand whos talking the truth from experience.
*gives man hug*

turps wrote:And you both will be incorrect. The PTO on a GQ is only fwd and rev and does not matter what gear is selected in either the gearbox or transfercase.

Somo days I wonder why I bother typing shit on the internet.

Well good golly gosh..i stand corrected, mind you i had to go out and check for myself and you are right turps..so i've learnt something and i'm happy to admit it. If typing shit on the internet is so tough...then don't do it simple as that mate.

twodiffs wrote:

turps wrote:And you both will be incorrect. The PTO on a GQ is only fwd and rev and does not matter what gear is selected in either the gearbox or transfercase.

Somo days I wonder why I bother typing shit on the internet.

Well good golly gosh..i stand corrected, mind you i had to go out and check for myself and you are right turps..so i've learnt something and i'm happy to admit it. If typing shit on the internet is so tough...then don't do it simple as that mate.

I actually had no idea what it did till I got mine about 11yrs ago. And I played with it (the PTO that is). As the only other PTO's I played with where those on Unimogs and Landrovers.

jtraf wrote:the only place an auto will let you down is going down hill as there is little or no engine braking.......everywhere else it wins hands down.

Never had any problems going down hill with an auto....left foot on the brake and drive through the brakes. We teach this in our basic course, so I don't understand why people still thinks that going down hill in an auto is a problem.

How do the autos hold up compared to manuals and are they expensive to rebuild? Any overheating issues and is lifespan shorter than that of an manual??

mick85 wrote:How do the autos hold up compared to manuals and are they expensive to rebuild? Any overheating issues and is lifespan shorter than that of an manual??

Just had my auto fully rebuilt for $2600 in my TB42 GQ. Convertor was completely stuffed and also had end play on the internal bearings and shafts etc that chewed out the oil pump. Also had new solenoid pack fitted whilst it was apart. Drives like a new truck now. Also had overheating issues as I'm running 35's so I fitted a PWR trans cooler and bypassed the radiator altogether. Works a treat. Was told that as long as I change the trans oil at least once a year (it's not a daily driver) I shouldn't have anymore dramas.

Mine is pushed pretty hard and the temp very rarely gets over 80*c. I do have 2 decent sized coolers on it but with 280rwkw it is getting pushed pretty hard.
As for rebuilds, yeah they cost a bit but you have a 200K + lifespan, more if you look after it so big deal. It probably works out at about 0.1 cent a km.
From memory if you include complete rebuild, manual vale body, strengthened torque convertor, etc coolers and fans, etc mine owes me about $5,500, and it is good for 600hp.
And I agree with the downhill statements. Mine is behind a petrol V8 with standard stall speed etc and down hill is never a problem. You just drive it like an auto and it is fine. Sure if you treat it like a manual it is a problem but then if you do that you don't know how to drive and need a couple of quick lessons (and then a lot of practice) and you'll then have more control down hill than with a manual.