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ok so i have saved the $5000 for 5" lift going to go the snake kit

still not sure if snake drop arms are better
or drop boxes as there is a lot of talk of drop boxes

is this because there cheeper to install than fitting $2500 worth of drop radius arms or they are a better system

would realy like everyones opinion on this as i an a fitter welder and fitting boxes is easy enuff for me but dont want to do it if not a better system.

thanks chris

take the snake arms and throw em in the bin they are shit et some superior flex arms they are cheaper and the ducks nuts when it comes to flex have a look at superior engineerings website sure you could get whole kit cheaper than snakes kit snakes are shit

want to be a wylie wrote:ok so i have saved the $5000 for 5" lift going to go the snake kit

$5000?
http://www.bbmmotorsports.com.au/patrol.html
Item: PATROL 6in lift kit -> Price: $2760.00
Got any other questions?
Contact us sales@bbmotorsports.com.au
or call the store on 02 96799744

or
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... ts_id=3502
Superior 4-5 inch lift kit Superflex Radius Arms
[TD4SFKT1] $4,165.00
Superior Engineering has put together kit to lift your nissan 4-5 inchs. Kit includes 4x Dobinson coils, 4 x45mm Tough dog Big Bore Adjustable shocks, 1x tough dog EXT Steering damper, 1x Front and 1x rear H/D adjustable Panard rods,1 x pair SuperFlex Radius Arms, 2 x extended brake lines, 1 x extended diff breather kit, 1 x extended brake proportioning valve bracket , 1 x Adjustable Drag link (options are 4x sway bar disconnects or 2 x rear upper adjustable Control arms or 2 x rear lower control arms) 1 x 4140 H/D adjustable Drag Link.
Superior Engineering will contact you upon receiving the order to dicuss coil rates

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ft ... t=superior

want to be a wylie wrote:ok so i have saved the $5000 for 5" lift going to go the snake kit

still not sure if snake drop arms are better
or drop boxes as there is a lot of talk of drop boxes

is this because there cheeper to install than fitting $2500 worth of drop radius arms or they are a better system

would realy like everyones opinion on this as i an a fitter welder and fitting boxes is easy enuff for me but dont want to do it if not a better system.

thanks chris

boy o boy, 5 gorillas for a lift kit. I assume you have shopped around, there are plenty of comprehensive kits around for much less. it is a lot of money so make sure you are getting what you pay for. even if you save a grand or 2, that pays for alot of other goodies ie diff lock, roof rack, spotties, winch etc

good luck man

I'd go for flexy coils, long arm conversion, superior flex arms

Speak to your engineer first. Whatever gear you use, he'll probably want to see the test report on it, unless he's seen it before. $5000 will probably be closer to the mark once you factor in another grand for arms, and one more for engineers report, brake test, wheel alignment, etc.

go the superior super flex arms. they the best money iv spent on patrol. keeps the wheels on the ground a whole lot more= a whole lot more traction. superior know there shit.

I would run 2dextreme comp spec arms first, or superior superflex as a second choice.

Shop around for your suspension parts, you will be suprised.

5 thou would want to be a flash kit.

you telling me know better late than to late
thanks all

so is the superior kit good

or do i need to shop around and mix and match componets
do i need to run drop boxes with superior arms or are they bolt on

Patrol billet drop arms from bbm are these any good
i realy need to do some more home work
so get ready for dumbn qs

chris

want to be a wylie wrote:i realy need to do some more home work

First question: why do you need 5inch lift?

my brother owns the "cashie" in the members section, the 75 series with coil overs and we need another truck capable of getting in to the places we want to try and go

but i cant afford the down time in the nissan so i want a bolt in kit or at least weekend max mod time frame for componets

chris

I've got snake arms and they are fine, but I do remove a radius arm bolt to get them to flex when wheeling. Would I spend the money on them again? No I wouldn't.

The superior kit with the high flex radius arms looks the best going for a straight bolt in kit but I wouldn't go more than 4 inches in a LWB or 3 inches in a shorty. I'd definitely look at the long lower control arms they have for the rear as well.

are you indicating that superior rear arms are not good as other brands

if so what commercially available rear arms are the best

whos componets make the ultimate kit list

1 superior flex arms
2 coils ?
3 shocks ?
4 upper rear arms ?
lower rear arms ?
5 adj panards ?
6 the easyest method for sway bar disconect ?
(are there diffrent methods)

all of superiors stuff is good. call them and tell them what you want. superiors red gq has only 4 inch lift i think. theres another topic in nissan section that explains how the long arms work. think the topic name is "rear flex".

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic146037.php

super flex is the topic an dvery helpfull thanks

so next q is

i dont understand do get more flex out of drop boxes or drop arms?

are drop boxes less strain on the truck?

or are boxes a cheeper way to go?

i gess what i want to know is which system is better?

want to be a wylie wrote:http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic146037.php

super flex is the topic an dvery helpfull thanks

so next q is

i dont understand do get more flex out of drop boxes or drop arms?

are drop boxes less strain on the truck?

or are boxes a cheeper way to go?

i gess what i want to know is which system is better?

IMO, the quickest and cheapest and best handling is to go 1 x superflex arm to suit std height and a set of drop boxes. From all reports they ride nice handle great and have the most flex of any arm setup.
a full set of superflex arms is the ultimate as you get no loss of chassis clearance, but are more expensive.

either way work really well its all a matter of choice?

Nelso wrote:but I do remove a radius arm bolt to get them to flex when wheeling.

I cant beleve people do this still..

I wouldn't go more than 4 inches in a LWB or 3 inches in a shorty.

agree.

I would go a superior suspension kit with the long arm kit and both front arms. If you are going normal style shocks as a opposed to custom use EFS extreme's over the tough dogs. Drives way better on them. 4/5 inch lift will be fine on a lwb.

I'm running 3 1/2" lift on my shorty, and run drop boxes and the standard flex arm
For clearance, go drop flex arms, but I'm told for handling and better climbing over obstacles, the drop boxes are better?

I don't know many people that get hung up due to drop boxes, sure they scrape, but I've never been stuck due to them.

I just got a 4-5" superior kit off Shane "4wd stuff" . AWSOME !!!!

Very happy with the drop arms!

Best option for sway bar disconects is pull them out of the truck and discard them ...

Get the braided brake lines when you get the kit, so much better pedal!!!

Longer fixed length lowers as there stronger than the adjustables, or long arm kit.

etc...

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want to be a wylie wrote:my brother owns the "cashie" in the members section, the 75 series with coil overs and we need another truck capable of getting in to the places we want to try and go

but i cant afford the down time in the nissan so i want a bolt in kit or at least weekend max mod time frame for componets

chris

one simple answer just buy a toyota , decsions, decsions, decsions

all jokes aside, how do the other kits apart from the snake kit handle on road, a mate of mine has the 5 inch snake kit in his truck, and the thing is really good in the bush and off road, its comes down to this also, its not a dedacated off road truck it will be driven monday to friday and needs good road handling, as most of the time the truck will be on the black top, chris is also wanting to run 37 inch tyres



rob

want to be a wylie wrote:are you indicating that superior rear arms are not good as other brands

No, I was saying the long arm kit is a very good option that will increase stability. From what I have seen of Superior gear it looks to be great quality and with the bonus of the flex radius arms and the rear long arm kit it would be the best performing bolt on kit around. As I said earlier, Snake gear is good quality (except the rear lower adjustable control arms) albeit a little expensive, but you don't get the performance offroad that you would with the full superior kit (that includes the above mentioned extras).

bogged wrote:

Nelso wrote:but I do remove a radius arm bolt to get them to flex when wheeling.

I cant beleve people do this still..

Do you know of anyone breaking stuff this way? I know plenty that wheel like this and never have.

alright so the kit seems the way to go

but.......

snakes arms are certified for on road driving legally (nsw dont know about other states)
are superiors leagally road worthy ?

75 cruser wrote:

want to be a wylie wrote:my brother owns the "cashie" in the members section, the 75 series with coil overs and we need another truck capable of getting in to the places we want to try and go

but i cant afford the down time in the nissan so i want a bolt in kit or at least weekend max mod time frame for componets

chris

one simple answer just buy a toyota , decsions, decsions, decsions

all jokes aside, how do the other kits apart from the snake kit handle on road, a mate of mine has the 5 inch snake kit in his truck, and the thing is really good in the bush and off road, its comes down to this also, its not a dedacated off road truck it will be driven monday to friday and needs good road handling, as most of the time the truck will be on the black top, chris is also wanting to run 37 inch tyres



rob

I had a megalift/snake 5inch kit with tough dogs in my GU wagon on 35s and it drove alright without sway bars but in 2 years it had 2 sets of tough dogs fail. I changed the coils and shocks to EFS extremes and the difference was awesome. Far nicer to drive, the shocks are way better.
when i came to set up my GU ute i got a EFS kit from Superior. Drives very nice no swaybars on 37inch Krawlers.
Next mods will be the long arm kit and the super flex arms. After seeing the difference the super flex arms made to a friends GQ both on and off road they are money very well spent

want to be a wylie wrote:alright so the kit seems the way to go

but.......

snakes arms are certified for on road driving legally (nsw dont know about other states)
are superiors leagally road worthy ?

To quote snake racing's web site,

All products mentioned on this web site are for off road use only. We recommend checking with the transport authority in your state and obtaining a engineers report for all modifications that are carried out. It is also in your best interest to check with your insurance company that they will still cover your vehicle for any modification you intend on performing.

well i be f@#ked hows that for some small/ large print

thats what i get for beliving word of mouth

in that case i guess superior and snake are sholder to sholder in that issue

as for it any one had any trouble with rta insurance after accedent ect?

want to be a wylie wrote:as for it any one had any trouble with rta insurance after accedent ect?

maybe not, but can you please be the first to test the system...

will give it best go0 i can

thanks all will get on the phone now and make it happen once it is in i will post pics when i start a section in the members spot

thanks all chris

want to be a wylie wrote:will give it best go0 i can

thanks all will get on the phone now and make it happen once it is in i will post pics when i start a section in the members spot

thanks all chris

they will be closed now.

so what setup did you decide on?