Outer Limits 4x4 Board

have a vote and leave your reason.

( going in to a gq patrol )

I would be keen to try the EFS's next, cause my T/D's are just about rooted, the adjusters either keep moving around on trips or jam up where they are set, just cant seem to keep the muck out of em, I like the idea of a seeled, no nonsence, self valved long travel shocky at a reasonable price, can't wait to see what the others have to say........

You will find plenty of people who have used T,Dogs and got rid of them.
I had some on my 80 series for about 8 months and they were completely stuffed, ALL of them.
Get the EFS Extemes, or OME "Race", SOOOO much better than any NOT SO TOUGH Dogs.

procomp

have heard all adjustables get clogged up with gunk and are rendered useless

Haven't had TDs but have been happy with EFS Extremes.

iv got efs extremes with the super flex arms and can not fault them and they get a work out regularly. never had tough dog but know a few guys that have had them and where very disapointed. not very tough at all.

procomp is my choice as they are tuff, strong, valved right for me and are non adjustable so no stuffing around with them. Had them in my disco and now have them in my GQ and they are great.

I have had EFS before and found them too hard, esp in the rear.

I havent had TD so cant judge them

90series Koni's.

turps wrote:90series Koni's.

what?

turps wrote:90series Koni's.

x eleventy...
but at 800pr they arent for 99.9% of the kiddies round here!

wyliespatrol wrote:

turps wrote:90series Koni's.

what?

These things are huge and will take some big hits. Where valved and developed in conjunction with a guy from melb who has many years of racing and driving fast in GQ's

wyliespatrol wrote:

turps wrote:90series Koni's.

what?

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turps wrote:

wyliespatrol wrote:

turps wrote:90series Koni's.

what?

These things are huge and will take some big hits. Where valved and developed in conjunction with a guy from melb who has many years of racing and driving fast in GQ's

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ how much
only want to do this once unless i am at folt and have to fix what i bent!

wyliespatrol wrote:$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ how much

800 a pr

70mm body

42mm piston

how do they handle heat?

Those rears that Bogged has posted. Want be 90series, as last time I checked they dont make a 90series rear. So they will be 88series which are alot cheaper.

88series front got cooked by going for a short drive (now most of use wouldn't drive that hard), 90series didn't even get warm. Well thats the story I was told.

q_ship wrote:70mm body

42mm piston

how do they handle heat?

Tough Dogs have 70mm body aswell, and 45mm bore

I bought a set of TDs second hand and so far I'm happy with them.
As for the adjusters, it's not that hard to just take them off every now and then and clean out the grit + spray some WD40 on the mechanism.

Another vote for the EFS, to be honest for most people who arent racing, competing or whatever if u fit a shock and never have troubles their good. I cant tell the difference anyway, from using dobinsons, OME, or EFS extremes (on my current ute) fully loaded over corrugations, rough tracks etc, no difference, no overheating or failures ever.

Love my EFS shockers. Ive given then a hiding and never had any issues with them. Very good bang for the buck too.

So for hard racing / competition driving would the konis (90 series in the front and 88 series in the rear) be the best?

Plenty of guys race on the EFS Extremes!! put the rest of the money you save into something else. IMO not worth the extra money for koni's.

What sort of travel can you get out of the Koni's?

TDs are working swell for me at the moment, floated like marshmellows over the corri's last week up the cape ! But they have only been in the truck for 3 weeks .
Ive been told to pull the adjusters off and repack with grease so they dont freeze up. (on the to do list)

IMO if they didn't have the internal bump stops they would be better (more travel).

Haven't tried EFS yet.

Fox shocks are on my wish list (one day )

Been there done that and I imported Procomps, they are the bees knee's for my setup, EFS extremes were a little bit to long but they would have been second choice!!!

i have toughdogs, only because i got the kit at a steal, imo the adjuster is wank factor, incab adjuster is bigger wank factor, and for what its worth, they are very over priced, handle heat well , but are very stiff, rebound is sloppy on fast hits due to this stiffness, my vote is for efs as ill be changing to extremes when i can afford it

cooki_monsta wrote:i have toughdogs, only because i got the kit at a steal, imo the adjuster is wank factor, incab adjuster is bigger wank factor, and for what its worth, they are very over priced, handle heat well , but are very stiff, rebound is sloppy on fast hits due to this stiffness, my vote is for efs as ill be changing to extremes when i can afford it

maybe you should try adjusting the wank factor adjusters to soften them up

cooki_monsta wrote:imo the adjuster is wank factor, incab adjuster is bigger wank factor,

for the couple of days my Rancho kit incab worked, it was awesome. You could go from marshmallow soft, to rod stiff in a few seconds.. having said that, ranchos were pure shit being replaced 3 times, and wouldnt bother with adjustable again.

i know what your sayin rvh i just think for the money you pay for them, it would be better spent on the efs shocks, plus toughdogs have a tendancy to leak from the seals, 2 out of my 4 are doing it, but i do give them hell

so what length shock do you get for the 4-5" kit (superior)
in the efs?

and are the in cab kit any good (adjustable)?

or is it pritty common for them to f@#k up?