Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Hilux has to much slop

Tech Talk for Cruiser owners.

Moderators: toaddog, Elmo, DUDELUX

Post Reply
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Hilux has to much slop

Post by Weiner »

Hi guys,

Anyone know what causes a heap of play in the steering in my LN106, has no p/s.

Brother has had a quick look and reckons the steering box is all good.

It makes it a bit hairy with 35's on it.

Cheers.
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Posts: 410
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:30 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by craz3d »

Busted drag link springs?
Posts: 166
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:19 pm
Location: New Zealand

Post by xxxhilux »

it will more than likely be in the drag link
first thing to do is take the pins out and tighten up the ends
if this dose not work you will need to replace the springs
it a common problem
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic154894.php
Posts: 1031
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 10:22 pm
Location: Newcastle 2300

Post by joel HJ60 »

Drive up next to the gutter and turn your tyre into it while someone checks out your steering joint. Spec is 3mm per joint, so if you see anything they all add up to give uber slop.
[b]1985 HJ60[/b]

[url]http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons[/url]
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Weiner »

Was happening when springs were brand spankers.

What pins do I take out for the drag link. I am not a mechanic :oops:
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Posts: 166
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:19 pm
Location: New Zealand

Post by xxxhilux »

sorry jus the split pins that stop it unwinding
did u tighten them up tight
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic154894.php
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Weiner »

xxxhilux wrote:sorry jus the split pins that stop it unwinding
did u tighten them up tight
No, but I will check them tomorrow and report back.

If its not that would replacing the bushes etc in the arms make much of a differance?
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Posts: 166
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:19 pm
Location: New Zealand

Post by xxxhilux »

it could do if there warn it makes steering slopy
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic154894.php
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Weiner »

Would somethingl ike this do the trick?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TOYOTA-HILUX-CRU ... dZViewItem
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Posts: 166
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:19 pm
Location: New Zealand

Post by xxxhilux »

no not that il pull a drag like apart tomoro and take some pics show u what bits wear out
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic154894.php
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Weiner »

xxxhilux wrote:no not that il pull a drag like apart tomoro and take some pics show u what bits wear out
Sounds good, that would be good :D
Edit: Drag link kit? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HILUX-STEERING-D ... dZViewItem
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Posts: 3224
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:36 pm
Location: Lost in the Cleland fog!

Post by ferrit »

when you re-do your drag link, you do it up tight, back it off 1 and 1/3 of a turn, then pin thru again.

And make sure you put it back on the right way round, otherwise you get two different turning circles :oops:
2005 HDJ100 Manual, ARB bar, XD9000 winch, ARB rooftop tent + awning, Drawers, Engel, 2" OME lift, 285/75R16 KM2's, iCom, HID XGT's.
Posts: 85
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:35 am
Location: Gympie, QLD

Post by skylux »

You can tighten the steering up at the box. There ia a bolt on the side that you adjust which will reduce the slop. Make sure you don't tighten it too much because they can lock up sometimes.
Posts: 410
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:30 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by craz3d »

And when you do it use plenty of molybdenum disulphide grease ;)
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:45 pm
Location: Logan (since amalgamation)

PLAY IN STEERING

Post by Dents LN65 »

CHECK THE BALLS ON THE STEERING ARM (BOOMERANG) AND PITMAN ARM, THEY CAN GET LOOSE & THEY ALSO WEAR OUT & GET BIG FLAT SPOTS ON THEM, If they are worn its best to change the whole arm rather than just the ball.
Hilux Wreckers Chinderah NSW
Shed 12 / 11-13 Morton St
Chinderah
ONLY 1hr FROM BRISBANE!
Ph. 02 66743307
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:45 pm
Location: Logan (since amalgamation)

steering play

Post by Dents LN65 »

Weiner wrote:
xxxhilux wrote:no not that il pull a drag like apart tomoro and take some pics show u what bits wear out
Sounds good, that would be good :D
Edit: Drag link kit? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HILUX-STEERING-D ... dZViewItem
I beleive that in VIC same as QLD if the ball end is changed an engineers report is required. I sell Reco arms which have a new ball fitted and they are all supplied out of Melbourne and come with an engineers report. I would check it out before attempting to change the ball end yourself, just in case! if it fails your insurance could be wiped.
Hilux Wreckers Chinderah NSW
Shed 12 / 11-13 Morton St
Chinderah
ONLY 1hr FROM BRISBANE!
Ph. 02 66743307
Posts: 166
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:19 pm
Location: New Zealand

Post by xxxhilux »

Weiner wrote:
xxxhilux wrote:no not that il pull a drag like apart tomoro and take some pics show u what bits wear out
Sounds good, that would be good :D
Edit: Drag link kit? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HILUX-STEERING-D ... dZViewItem
thats the bits you will need i wouldnt worry about the ball at all unless u can see wear on it
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic154894.php
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: steering play

Post by Weiner »

Dents LN65 wrote: I beleive that in VIC same as QLD if the ball end is changed an engineers report is required. I sell Reco arms which have a new ball fitted and they are all supplied out of Melbourne and come with an engineers report. I would check it out before attempting to change the ball end yourself, just in case! if it fails your insurance could be wiped.
Stupid question, how would they know you have changed it?
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Weiner »

xxxhilux wrote: thats the bits you will need i wouldnt worry about the ball at all unless u can see wear on it
Cheers mate, ordered the bits, will hopefully sort it out during the week :D
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Posts: 166
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:19 pm
Location: New Zealand

Post by xxxhilux »

have you got it sorted and was that the problem
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic154894.php
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Weiner »

xxxhilux wrote:have you got it sorted and was that the problem
Got the bits and the brother is coming round tomorrow to fit it (1st yr apprentice)
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Weiner »

I finally got round to putting in the new bushes in on the pitman arm end, the old bushes were real worn, the ball on the pitman arm looks a bit worn but couldn't get the arm off. no matter what I tried.

Haven't taken it for a drive yet but I reckon it will make a big differance.
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Posts: 588
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:04 pm

Post by gotoy »

Take the advice of that mechanic. The steering box is F'ed.

There a nut on the top, try to tighten it.
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:04 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Weiner »

gotoy wrote:Take the advice of that mechanic. The steering box is F'ed.

There a nut on the top, try to tighten it.
Its on the side, and I have adjusted it. Helped a bit.
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests