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GU Guards not big enough..

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:43 pm
by k3lst
Ive got two sets of tyres, one road set 265x17x8 with standard gu rims, and wheelin set is 35x12.5x15 with maximum offset. my prob is that the wheelin set stick out two or three inchs, and therefore are deemed illegal.

My question is does anyone stock any aftermarket guards i can take the old ones off and replace them with?

Regards, K3lst

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:40 pm
by fool_injected
This post would be more appropriate in the NISSAN TECH SECTION

Your easiest options would be some flares
I know jack about Nissans but I think Landcruiser rims have a larger offset

Check the bible in the NISSAN TECH SECTION

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:52 pm
by HeathGQ
moved from Gen Chit Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:51 pm
by twodiffs
fool_injected wrote:This post would be more appropriate in the NISSAN TECH SECTION

Your easiest options would be some flares
I know jack about Nissans but I think Landcruiser rims have a larger offset

Check the bible in the NISSAN TECH SECTION
Whats wrong with this section?? Seems an appropriate question to me!

In the past I have used rubber conveyor belt approx 8-10mm thick and 100mm wide, conveyor belt makes for good strong screw fixing as well.

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:23 pm
by CruiserPatrol
I as well as many others use garden edging 50 bucks from hardware store and can be trimmed to the right width.

Dave

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:39 pm
by giantracing
i have the moulds and can make you a pair of ice lantic flares for a gu about 5 ' wide. can fit huge offset wheels on. also for any body else i do GQ icelantic flares and GQ guards as well.

GU FLARES -$ 750 PAIR
GQ FLARES -$ 650 PAIR FRONT
GQ FLARES -$ 500 PAIR REAR
GQ FRONT GUARDS-$ 750 PAIR

giantracing flares

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:06 pm
by k3lst
im interested in giantracings flares, however no offence mate but thats pretty pricy -1500 for a set of 4 that will be the easiest thing to break on the rig??

are there any cheaper options on the market?

i know the black rubber suggestions you guys are giving, and usually id do that but i think the gu needs something more

k3lst

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:40 pm
by tailpipes
ive used 300mm rolls of vineydex and cut it down to suit they use it as danger tape of the top of cables berried in trenchers. been on the truck for 3 years easy to use havnt broken one yet. get it from construction sites.

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:24 pm
by macneil
u could get a set of rims with the correct offset and they dont stick out?

other wise garden edging i paid 30 bux for mine..

rims

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:35 pm
by k3lst
i custom ordered the max offset to lower the centre of gravity, thus the chance of rolling.

i knew they would stick out, but no where near as much as they do. its only on the wheelin set anyway, its getting from my house to the bush legally with them on thats the problem

k3lst

Re: giantracing flares

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:41 pm
by Bad JuJu
k3lst wrote:im interested in giantracings flares, however no offence mate but thats pretty pricy -1500 for a set of 4 that will be the easiest thing to break on the rig??

are there any cheaper options on the market?

i know the black rubber suggestions you guys are giving, and usually id do that but i think the gu needs something more

k3lst
Thats not a bad price..... better sit down when nissan tell you the genuine item price I think they are a bit over $900 EACH

Re: giantracing flares

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:49 pm
by k3lst
Bad JuJu wrote:
k3lst wrote:im interested in giantracings flares, however no offence mate but thats pretty pricy -1500 for a set of 4 that will be the easiest thing to break on the rig??

are there any cheaper options on the market?

i know the black rubber suggestions you guys are giving, and usually id do that but i think the gu needs something more

k3lst
Thats not a bad price..... better sit down when nissan tell you the genuine item price I think they are a bit over $900 EACH
HOLY CRAP... think i need a change of underpants :? i bought my first car for less then a PAIR of those geniune prices.. and that was less then 10 years ago

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:26 pm
by SIM79
giantracing wrote:i have the moulds and can make you a pair of ice lantic flares for a gu about 5 ' wide. can fit huge offset wheels on. also for any body else i do GQ icelantic flares and GQ guards as well.

GU FLARES -$ 750 PAIR
GQ FLARES -$ 650 PAIR FRONT
GQ FLARES -$ 500 PAIR REAR
GQ FRONT GUARDS-$ 750 PAIR
Can you please post up pics of the GQ flares. Are these flares designed to bolt in like the orignal flares?

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:19 pm
by fool_injected
twodiffs wrote:
fool_injected wrote:This post would be more appropriate in the NISSAN TECH SECTION
Whats wrong with this section?? Seems an appropriate question to me!
umm read the posts
HeathGQ wrote:moved from Gen Chit Chat

Re: giantracing flares

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:29 pm
by [gubeaut]
Bad JuJu wrote:
k3lst wrote:im interested in giantracings flares, however no offence mate but thats pretty pricy -1500 for a set of 4 that will be the easiest thing to break on the rig??

are there any cheaper options on the market?

i know the black rubber suggestions you guys are giving, and usually id do that but i think the gu needs something more

k3lst
Thats not a bad price..... better sit down when nissan tell you the genuine item price I think they are a bit over $900 EACH
don't know if thats for a wagon but for my ute i had to replace one of mine and it cost $400

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:39 pm
by Yom
Yeh GU IV and newer front flares are $700 from Nissan @ insurance company prices. Not including the little rubber trim strip which is colour specific or the little clips.

Dunno about the rears.

Re: rims

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:27 am
by benhl
k3lst wrote: its only on the wheelin set anyway, its getting from my house to the bush legally with them on thats the problem

k3lst
Your tyres are illegal anyway - why bother with the flares??

Re: rims

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:26 pm
by MJP
benhl wrote:
k3lst wrote: its only on the wheelin set anyway, its getting from my house to the bush legally with them on thats the problem

k3lst
Your tyres are illegal anyway - why bother with the flares??
Good point. I run 36" Pedes on mine for wheelin' on 1" offset and they stick out, but the tyres are more than 3 inches past being legal anway. Your F*cked either way!

Re: rims

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:48 pm
by jessie928
benhl wrote:
k3lst wrote: its only on the wheelin set anyway, its getting from my house to the bush legally with them on thats the problem

k3lst
Your tyres are illegal anyway - why bother with the flares??
becauselarge tyres that stick out ithot being covered are COP BAIT

large tyres that are covered and flapped will only get done if the copper has nothing better to do.

Jes

Re: giantracing flares

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:02 pm
by bogged
k3lst wrote:im interested in giantracings flares, however no offence mate but thats pretty pricy -1500 for a set of 4 that will be the easiest thing to break on the rig??
if they are fiberglass you can fix them easy enough. Glass is good to work with.
Then make your own mould off them and make a few sets to save yourself bux when you wanna replace them.

If you think you can sell them cheaper, then make some money that way to offset the original cost.

Re: rims

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:20 pm
by k3lst
benhl wrote:
k3lst wrote: its only on the wheelin set anyway, its getting from my house to the bush legally with them on thats the problem

k3lst
Your tyres are illegal anyway - why bother with the flares??

How are they illegal if the whole tyre is covered with a flare/guard? there only illegal if they arent covered, and deemed as dangerous.

Re: rims

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:34 pm
by bogged
k3lst wrote:How are they illegal.
oversized tire. if your talkin of the 35's that is.

Re: rims

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:29 pm
by dont_follow_me
bogged wrote:
k3lst wrote:How are they illegal.
oversized tire. if your talkin of the 35's that is.
and track width too...most states dont allow much of a increase in track

rims and tyres..

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:01 pm
by k3lst
fark...... :cry:

Im not mechanically minded, so when i bought my max offset rims i thought they would be maximum legal offset you can put on the particular 4b.

wonder what i should do from here..

tyres and rims

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:11 pm
by k3lst
how the hell do you guys get away with 35s etc??

Re: tyres and rims

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:07 pm
by bogged
k3lst wrote:how the hell do you guys get away with 35s etc??
wait till you get defected, then pay the fine, then sell your 35's to buy 32's to get the defect cleared.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:08 pm
by macneil
wow u guys are getting ripped my mate found GU factory flares for 450 ea.. but then were all getting ripped... 450 for a piece of plastic -.-

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:05 pm
by wrksux
Remember guys for a bit of plastic we are talking somewhere between 50-100,000 for a mould for each flare, they do have to recoup the cost's somehow

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:15 pm
by nastytroll
there would be aroung 700kg of alloy steel per mould, and roberly 200 hours each in machine time and labour.

Moulds are very time consuming to make and very labour intensive, and there genuine parts so they can charge what they want.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:24 pm
by bogged
nastytroll wrote:there would be aroung 700kg of alloy steel per mould, and roberly 200 hours each in machine time and labour.

Moulds are very time consuming to make and very labour intensive, and there genuine parts so they can charge what they want.
Gee, I should speak with Vince off patrol forum. he works for company that makes parts for holden and ford... eg the engine covers and shit..
hes the manager of the tool shop :armsup: