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Baby seat into a sierra

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:08 pm
by jtraf
Has anyone fitted a baby seat into a Sierra before.
Did you mount it in the front or back?

I am looking at whether it is feasible to mount a baby seat so that I can take my son to and from day care during the week and may have to use my sierra soon to do so. This is a 92 model soft top.

cheers

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:55 pm
by droopypete
A 92 model has 2 belt points at the top of each rear seat, factory.
Peter.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:20 pm
by No Idea
You need to fit a thing called a CRAB bar. You should be able to get it fitted at an authorised seat belt fitting station.
It is a bar that mounts behind the rear seat from one side of the vehicle to the other. it would have the ability to mount two child restraint points in the rear. more info here: http://www.childrestraints.com.au/crab_app.htm
This is the only legal way to go, also the smart way as your child's life would depend on it in a crash situation.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:27 pm
by bazooked
why dont ya mount it in swingin style from the factory roll bar/targa bar? hours of enjoyment for th e little 1... :D

Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 8:11 pm
by built4thrashing
how did you get on with baby seat in rear. I have just bought a sierra for this same reason

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:53 am
by jtraf
After much deliberation and actually sitting the seat in the back and seeing how close it sits to the rear bumper I decided that I was not going to risk putting my son in that situation. I would have had to mount the seat in the back and I thought that in the event of an accident with anything bigger and taller that my son would be in grave danger. At this point I stopped that thought process went out and bought the misses a cheap XF falcon on gas to go to work in and use the family wagon to transport the little one to and from day care. I know this sounds obserd cause I bought another car but old falcon on gas cheaper to run and don't care how scared it gets in shopping centre car park and wagon equals a lot of space behind son in case of an accident.

Cars can be replaced and more money can be saved later but kids can't be replaced.

When he gets older he can sit in the front with me and we can both enjoy the view. Sierra's really don't make a great kids transport vehicle at the end of the day.

James

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:59 am
by bigsteve
jtraf wrote: Sierra's really don't make a great kids transport vehicle at the end of the day.

James


Especially a soft top

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:02 am
by nelligen
jtraf wrote:After much deliberation and actually sitting the seat in the back and seeing how close it sits to the rear bumper I decided that I was not going to risk putting my son in that situation. I would have had to mount the seat in the back and I thought that in the event of an accident with anything bigger and taller that my son would be in grave danger. At this point I stopped that thought process went out and bought the misses a cheap XF falcon on gas to go to work in and use the family wagon to transport the little one to and from day care. I know this sounds obserd cause I bought another car but old falcon on gas cheaper to run and don't care how scared it gets in shopping centre car park and wagon equals a lot of space behind son in case of an accident.

Cars can be replaced and more money can be saved later but kids can't be replaced.

When he gets older he can sit in the front with me and we can both enjoy the view. Sierra's really don't make a great kids transport vehicle at the end of the day.

James
Shit you make me feel like a bad father I drove my 4 hr old baby home from Hospital in the back of my soft top, now shes 2 1/2 years and loves the zook so much she chucks a tantrum when we try to put her in the excel ,she screams I want the zoooooooky take dadys car

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 2:02 pm
by greg
nelligen wrote:Shit you make me feel like a bad father I drove my 4 hr old baby home from Hospital in the back of my soft top, now shes 2 1/2 years and loves the zook so much she chucks a tantrum when we try to put her in the excel ,she screams I want the zoooooooky take dadys car


Where's the emoticon for :oh how cute: :D

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 2:09 pm
by Guy
nelligen wrote:
Sh*t you make me feel like a bad father I drove my 4 hr old baby home from Hospital in the back of my soft top, now shes 2 1/2 years and loves the zook so much she chucks a tantrum when we try to put her in the excel ,she screams I want the zoooooooky take dadys car


That simply displaying good taste ..

I have seen a Zuk and an excel come together ... The ZUk drove away .. the excel was scrap ..

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 3:23 pm
by grimbo
James i have seen baby seats in soft top zuks in the states. They attached the baby seat onto a bracket in the full roll cage. Surely it woul dhave been cheaper to build a roll cage than buy a new car

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 5:03 pm
by jtraf
1987 Ford Falcon 107000KM old mans car from new with 12mth reg $1000.

Can't go past cheap cars like this. Full rollcage would have cost more to be done right with tools required.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 10:04 pm
by built4thrashing
SO WHAT IS NEEDED IF ANYTHING TO PUT BABY SEAT IN ? This is my car and it for when i wanna take the little one and not drive the TANK ( AU fairmont )

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 10:50 pm
by nelligen
grey zook wrote:SO WHAT IS NEEDED IF ANYTHING TO PUT BABY SEAT IN ? This is my car and it for when i wanna take the little one and not drive the TANK ( AU fairmont )
My 96 mod has standard mounting points on the back of both rear seats, you could drill a hole in the top lip section of the tail gate and fit a backing plate under the lip.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 6:30 pm
by No Idea
grey zook wrote:SO WHAT IS NEEDED IF ANYTHING TO PUT BABY SEAT IN ? This is my car and it for when i wanna take the little one and not drive the TANK ( AU fairmont )


Read my earlier post and click on the link - the answer was in front of you all the time...........

No Idea wrote:You need to fit a thing called a CRAB bar. You should be able to get it fitted at an authorised seat belt fitting station.
It is a bar that mounts behind the rear seat from one side of the vehicle to the other. it would have the ability to mount two child restraint points in the rear. more info here: http://www.childrestraints.com.au/crab_app.htm
This is the only legal way to go, also the smart way as your child's life would depend on it in a crash situation.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 9:07 pm
by droopypete
No Idea wrote:
grey zook wrote:SO WHAT IS NEEDED IF ANYTHING TO PUT BABY SEAT IN ? This is my car and it for when i wanna take the little one and not drive the TANK ( AU fairmont )


Read my earlier post and click on the link - the answer was in front of you all the time...........

No Idea wrote:You need to fit a thing called a CRAB bar. You should be able to get it fitted at an authorised seat belt fitting station.
It is a bar that mounts behind the rear seat from one side of the vehicle to the other. it would have the ability to mount two child restraint points in the rear. more info here: http://www.childrestraints.com.au/crab_app.htm
This is the only legal way to go, also the smart way as your child's life would depend on it in a crash situation.


No Idea, the pictures in that link are a very bad example of the use of such a device, and in my opinion is downright dangerous!
Please don't take this as an attack on you No Idea, but as the belt atachment point on the "CRAB" bar is quite a lot lower than where it passes through the child seat, and it appears to not touch the factory seat at all, in the event of a frontal collision, as the child is forced forward the belts would compress the seat and then the childs spine.
There are very strict guidlines regarding the maximum angle of the belt on the horizontal plane.
As I said NO IDEA, I am not against you or the product, just the photo.
At the end of the day why not use the factory ones that are allready installed and engineered on the tops of the rear seats :?:
Peter

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 10:45 pm
by built4thrashing
my question still remains unanswered. What is needed to fit a baby seat in a suzuki

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 11:01 pm
by nelligen
grey zook wrote:my question still remains unanswered. What is needed to fit a baby seat in a suzuki
A baby seat

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 11:30 pm
by built4thrashing
i mean other than the baby seat itself

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 5:51 pm
by droopypete
Grey zook, I have said it twice, and nelligen has said it aswell, a 92 model has baby seat anchors on the top of the rear seats, so i would assume that all later models and mabe some previous models had them also, if yours is an early model and dosn't have them, get a later model seat.
Peter.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 8:07 pm
by built4thrashing
thanx
Dont hasve a seat for the rear yet but now i know to get a later model one. thanx again.