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33's not road worthy???
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:28 pm
by eskii
Selling my maverick and went to get a RWC for it.
The guy said that it's not road worthy with 33's on it, "they're too big"
Thoughts?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:31 pm
by Modified Toy
what state you in?
Re: 33's not road worthy???
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:38 pm
by r0ck_m0nkey
eskii wrote:Thoughts?
I think they're too big and not road worthy.
Re: 33's not road worthy???
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:51 pm
by k3lst
eskii wrote:Selling my maverick and went to get a RWC for it.
The guy said that it's not road worthy with 33's on it, "they're too big"
Thoughts?
Have a read through the crap im having to deal with atm,...
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic155218.php
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:12 pm
by -Scott-
Thoughts? You're pushing sh!t a long way up hill if you think you'll get around this. If you were planning to keep the vehicle it might be worth investigating the engineering side of it, or waiting for the NCOP to be adopted (but don't hold your breath!) But, since you're selling, you want to get out of this as cheap as possible.
Personally, I would ask around a few local tyre stores - explain the issue, that you just want a RWC, see if anybody will do a swap for you. Swap your 33s for something which will pass a RWC. If your 33s are good it should be easy to arrange.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:42 pm
by dano80
If they're stamped 33x...... then they are probably illegal, but if they're stamped 285/75/16, then it should be all good.
I run 33 x 12.50 x 15's. Never had any issues, but I haven't tried to sell it before. Maybe try another place for RWC, some guys are fussier than others.
Best of luck.
Cheers, Dano.
Re: 33's not road worthy???
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:09 pm
by bogged
eskii wrote:Selling my maverick and went to get a RWC for it.
The guy said that it's not road worthy with 33's on it, "they're too big"
Thoughts?
as said, what state, and on what rig?
Re: 33's not road worthy???
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:34 pm
by -Scott-
bogged wrote:eskii wrote:Selling my maverick and went to get a RWC for it.
The guy said that it's not road worthy with 33's on it, "they're too big"
Thoughts?
as said, what state, and on
what rig?
At a guess, I'd say that, on this occasion, "maverick" is a noun and not an adjective.
Re: 33's not road worthy???
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:34 am
by bogged
-Scott- wrote:bogged wrote:eskii wrote:Selling my maverick and went to get a RWC for it.
The guy said that it's not road worthy with 33's on it, "they're too big"
Thoughts?
as said, what state, and on
what rig?
At a guess, I'd say that, on this occasion, "maverick" is a noun and not an adjective.
too much Cab sav after a day in the sun at the bike track
stop picking on me
Re: 33's not road worthy???
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:37 pm
by j-top paj
r0ck_m0nkey wrote:eskii wrote:Thoughts?
I think they're too big and not road worthy.
33s might be big on a zook
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:41 pm
by BlueSuzy
I have 33's
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:21 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
go to another shop.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:39 pm
by poppywhite
what state u in????
online regocheck makes it more difficult just to go someware else.
Do any friends relo's PPl were you work have more acceptable wheel with tyre you could borrow for test and swap back after
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:21 pm
by THICKNICK
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:06 pm
by matthewK
i managed 33s on my 60 here in vic from the road worthy shop in dandenong,
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:32 pm
by nastytroll
Check the manufactures specs on diametre if in Qld, basic law is +15mm to -26mm. Standard tyre
is a 7.50 16 which measures 815mm, most 33" tyres measure 830mm which is leagal.
You will need the manufacturers tyre size handbook/flyer that shows the diameters to back it up, also the qld modifications flyer that states the sizes.
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:45 pm
by high ridin
I got my old swb mav defected by the transprt department & it went over the pits & I had no worries with my 33" mud stars
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:25 pm
by coxy321
Just borow/hire/steal some 31's for the day its going in for a RWC. I've done this for ALL of the 4x4's i've owned. I think there's a 14 or 30 day period after a Vic RWC that puts the workshop responsible up until that date for an unroadworthy vehicle. After the safety period - go your hardest!!!
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:46 am
by j-top paj
my 35s passed without a question asked
and all the other mods also
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:48 am
by bogged
coxy321 wrote:I think there's a 14 or 30 day period after a Vic RWC that puts the workshop responsible up until that date for an unroadworthy vehicle. After the safety period - go your hardest!!!
I've often wondered about that, due to people doing what you have said.
anyone know how long the 'grace' period is that the workshop is liable??? Its pretty fawkt for the workshop owner to have any responsibility since as soon as the bloke drives out after the roady, he could do a burnout down to the rims.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:51 am
by joeblow
road worthy AND engineers reports are only valid for 28 days. thats why you will find a lot of workshops and engineers taking heaps of photos of said vehicles. that way if they get pulled up on it they have proof. usually workshops will take pics without telling you.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:56 am
by bogged
joeblow wrote:... engineers reports are only valid for 28 days.
- meaning you get 28days to inform Vicroads etc??
can you explain a bit more what you mean here only valid 28 days?
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:21 pm
by joeblow
if you don't submit it to vic roads within that period you will have to pay the full amount of the engineers bill again. i've been pulled over once a couple of years after the report was issued and as long as what is on the report matches what they vehicle has you will be fine, if they detect otherwise they can make you go for another one.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:32 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
joeblow wrote:road worthy AND engineers reports are only valid for 28 days. thats why you will find a lot of workshops and engineers taking heaps of photos of said vehicles. that way if they get pulled up on it they have proof. usually workshops will take pics without telling you.
man my engineer doesnt know what a camera is.
hes still living in the 1800's. but hes a top bloke.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:48 pm
by bogged
joeblow wrote:if you don't submit it to vic roads within that period you will have to pay the full amount of the engineers bill again.
Cheers mate.. I went to Vicroads on the way home from gettin my engineers on the GQ....
So Vicroads would have all data on the engineers on file?
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:06 pm
by Simo63
I have heard through a tyre fitter I know that 285/75/16's are oversize for my 80 series so I would guess they would also be oversize for a GQ as well. I haven't had any issues though however I can see where the mechanic providing the RWC is coming from. His RWC license is worth a lot to his income so he's understandably not willing to risk that by doing the wrong thing and that's fair enough. A mechanic mate of mine takes a picture of every car he does a RW on to prove it had the right wheels on it.
Solution?? What you need to do is buy a set of road legal standard sized wheels and tyres and get the RWC with them fitted. Then sell the car to the new buyer with the legal tyres fitted and the 33's in the back (good idea to take a picture of it to prove it). Then you are covered and so is the mechanic that provided the RWC.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:38 pm
by joeblow
bogged wrote:joeblow wrote:if you don't submit it to vic roads within that period you will have to pay the full amount of the engineers bill again.
Cheers mate.. I went to Vicroads on the way home from gettin my engineers on the GQ....
So Vicroads would have all data on the engineers on file?
yep, they should have a copy, you have a copy and the engineer will have a copy. i'm pretty sure on thier computer system it will have a reference to your report number when they bring up your details.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:21 pm
by eskii
Victoria i'm in.
So if I do a swapsies with 31's for the day, that should be alright...
Kinda sounds crazy that 33's don't pass. But laws are laws i guess.
Sucks a heap coz i bought the car with same tyres! baha
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:28 pm
by grimbo
33s are legal on a Patrol but it may be the width that is the issue if they are 12.5s they are probably sticking out. Maybe talk to the guy and get a bit more detailed explanation from him about what he actually means "Are too big"
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:50 pm
by Ruffy
grimbo wrote:33s are legal on a Patrol
Not in your state there not!
The largest diameter tyre a GQ patrol came out of the factory with was a 235/85/16. That gives it an overall height of 31 3/4 inches or 806 mm.
Given that you are only allowed to increase tyre size by 15 mm a 33 inch tyre is too tall.