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Well i have in my handw a 200nx engine 1800cc and about 170hp (it alot )

Have anyone have fit it in a Summy ???

1) Well i am trying to find a tranfer case that must be short so it can fit .

2) i am also trying to fit a Vitara tranfer case from a 1.6cc engine

Do anyone have a better idea


Thank you

Sorry about transfer case i mean gear box . . . Thank you

What engine is in a 200nx?
If its a CA18 then it can be made to fit as a few here have done it.
A better fit would be a Suzuki 1.6 from a Vitara.

Jas.

It will help if you post the engine's designation. (i.e CA18... SR20 etc) We don't have the 200NX model here in Australia.

next, I assume you are trying to find a gearbox (not transfer) that is short enough to fit, using the stock sierra/jimny/samurai transfer case, or, alternatively, try to attach the vitara transfer case to the back of a nissan (?) gearbox.

If it is a Nissan engine that was used in a Rear wheel drive application, it might be possible to build a skyline/silvia hybrid manual that is short enough to leave your sierra transfer case more or less where it is. The skyline extension housing is shorter than the silvia one from memory.

I'd avoid the vitara transfer case alltogether. It will make gearing your car hard, it has slip yokes front and rear, and the location of the rear output will put the rear driveshaft at a very steep angle, and centred compared to the RHS location of your sierra rear differential.


I also assume that the 200NX is a front wheel drive car (?) so you will need a RWD sump, starter motor, engine mounts and possibly have to move some accessories. also, look carefully where the distributor and any water piping sit.

just because a motor makes good power and you can get it doesn't mean it is a good conversion.

Suzuki's have been built here in australia with both CA18 and SR 20 series engines, so it is possible, but the SR20, in particular, is a tight fit and takes lots of troubleshooting to get all the bugs out.

You really need to supply some more information about the engine and what you want to do before some of the guys that have done nissan conversions here in Australia can assist you.

PS with that much power I'd want an automatic gearbox- It will be much kinder to the car.

Steve.

If the 200NX is the vehice I think it is then the motor is a CA18 varient.

Do a search for ca18 in the Suzuki section and it will return some very relevant results

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic130159-30.php bottom of the page.

I dont know how well you would go getting the turbo in as well. May be a bit to much
A: heatload under the bonnet
B: Power for offroad in a very SWB vehicle.

200sx = SR20DET..



been done.. search

jonno_racing wrote:200sx = SR20DET..



been done.. search

but he is talking about a 200NX not 200SX

jonno_racing wrote:200sx = SR20DET..



been done.. search

Sr20DET = 2000cc motor
Quite clearly states 1800cc motor ..
The poster is from Greece .. many different model vehicles available the world over ..


readers are leaders ..

from what i member, a nx cope has a sr20de in it... less it's one of the very early ones that have the sr looking rounded rocker cover on a 1800cc ... either was your much better finding a ca18 or sr20. in RWD layout. ANYTHING can be dun with enough shed time

Adam

NX is FWD and has the sr20 in it . Euro market may have had a 1800 to meet pacific market requirements ie cheaper rego.

You'd be much better to use a gearbox that bolts to the Nissan engine rather than adapt a gearbox from a different car to the nissan engine and then maybe have to adapt the gearbox to work with the sierra transfer case.

Nissan parts are very interchangeable, but we/you need to know what series of motor it is rather than the car it came from before we/you can work out what gearbox is the correct fit.


Steve.

Well i just see the engine . the engine is a CA18 Turbo


The gaer box is to long i must look for a shorter one or i must fit a Vitara gear bog

This is the Nissan gear box


This is the adapter to fit a vitara gear box


This is the engine



I was looking for a gearbox that will bolts on the Nissan engine but i dident find any

Zute wrote:NX is FWD and has the sr20 in it . Euro market may have had a 1800 to meet pacific market requirements ie cheaper rego.

so there for a SR18DE...

You have a few options .
One is to put a different output housing on the gearbox , one off a Cefero or 4dr skyline I think is the one you want . I did not find this out until I went with option 2 . Bolting the engine up to a nissan 4x4 ute gearbox , the hassle with this is the front output is on the wrong side for suzuki diffs , a big hassle to resolve .

Look into putting another housing on . Or go auto , a guy in NZ here has just put an auto ca18 into his 413 .

Chris

Rotazuk wrote:Look into putting another housing on . Or go auto , a guy in NZ here has just put an auto ca18 into his 413 .

Chris

Can i have his e-mail or something to get in contak with him

Thank you

Extend the wheelbase and fit the nissan gearbox or vitara and adaptor.

Jas.

IF it is turbo then just go an auto anyway.

Remove the rear seats, the engine should fit nicely.

Rotazuk wrote:. Or go auto , a guy in NZ here has just put an auto ca18 into his 413 .

Chris

That would be me.

I used a nissan silvia (180sx) auto box. The tail housing is really long but you can cut it off. I had an adaptor made to mate a toyota hilux transfer to the nissan box. We cut the tail shaft off at the park lock sprocket (about 200mm) and bolted a flang to the sproket. The flange had the joiner (splined tube) from the hilux box pressed/welded to it. In all the engine auto an transfer are only about 50mm longer than the standard suzuki set up.

The engine fits well but you need to reverse the sump to have the drop in the rear. From what I could find the sumps for front and rear wheel drive are the same.

The trans is a tight fit and I cut the trans tunnel out in a straight line from the fire wall to the tunnel about 900mm from the fire wall (if that makes sense)

I sent you an email (address from rotazuk.) If you get it I'll email some pics and feel free to ask any questions.

meatc1 wrote:

Rotazuk wrote:. Or go auto , a guy in NZ here has just put an auto ca18 into his 413 .

Chris

That would be me.

I used a nissan silvia (180sx) auto box. The tail housing is really long but you can cut it off. I had an adaptor made to mate a toyota hilux transfer to the nissan box. We cut the tail shaft off at the park lock sprocket (about 200mm) and bolted a flang to the sproket. The flange had the joiner (splined tube) from the hilux box pressed/welded to it. In all the engine auto an transfer are only about 50mm longer than the standard suzuki set up.

The engine fits well but you need to reverse the sump to have the drop in the rear. From what I could find the sumps for front and rear wheel drive are the same.

The trans is a tight fit and I cut the trans tunnel out in a straight line from the fire wall to the tunnel about 900mm from the fire wall (if that makes sense)

I sent you an email (address from rotazuk.) If you get it I'll email some pics and feel free to ask any questions.

Thank you

want33s wrote:What engine is in a 200nx?
If its a CA18 then it can be made to fit as a few here have done it.
A better fit would be a Suzuki 1.6 from a Vitara.

Jas.

The samy has Patrol axles C200 front and rear
Home made suspension 4-ling back and 3-link front
tires now 235/85/16 after thinking for 35'' or 38''


It had 1600cc vitara engine but we wanted something more m we couldnt find a 2000cc 4cylinder Suzuki engine so we started looking for something diferend

and the dancing have startet 1 week ago

can you post some pics of your Suzuki, sounds interesting

grimbo wrote:can you post some pics of your Suzuki, sounds interesting

First mods and before fitting patrol axles and coils . . .



And the moment that begins for a lot of cutting and fitting



Patrol axles they are C200








The first testing moments in the garage





The driving test which we where looking for any problems

Is C200 the same as MQ here??

C200 is MQ Front and they are common MQ rear diffs in Europe. They are also used in the rear of Navaras.

Australian MQ's didn't have C200s rear diffs though.

I *think* light duty australian G60 patrols have C200 rears.

Steve.

All i can say is wow nice job.

Do you want to come to australia and do mine with coils?

(joking)

BlueSuzy wrote:All i can say is wow nice job.

Do you want to come to australia and do mine with coils?

(joking)

I wish i was in Australia :( i was born in Melburne , but its a little difficult now . my wife dont want to go away from here and she doesnt wan to go for holidays to Australia because she knows if i come i will not return

Well if you make my tickets/and a Samy to go around Australia i will think about it

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