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exploded view of a WT transfere case?
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:14 pm
by brendan_h
just after an exploded view of the transfere case. and what each thing in there are called.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:17 pm
by Gwagensteve
You need a factory service manual.
PS the exploded view isn't ideal as it doesn't show the difference between some of the part sizes - i.e there are a couple of spacers that can go on in the wrong place that aren't obvious until you go through the whole step by step thing in the manual.
Steve.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:19 pm
by brendan_h
ok then. reason for asking is i got an order lined up from lockedtup for rebuilding my transferecase and also the input pilot bearing and the output pilot bearings. hopfully that fixes my problems.
how many output pilot bearings are there
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:25 pm
by Gwagensteve
If you plan on fitting diff gears for yourself you REALLY need a factory manual. It will save lots of headaches - all the specs, tolerances etc are shown and it's 10000's of times easier to follow than some photo's and descriptions.
steve.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:27 pm
by brendan_h
not fitting diff gears or rtcase gears. jsut replaceing a few bearing
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:40 pm
by Gwagensteve
Sorry I meant transfer gears.
Replacing bearings is exactly the same job as replacing transfer gears. You still need to have the procedure and tolerances etc.
Steve.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:41 pm
by want33s
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:48 pm
by brendan_h
thanks. how mnay pilot bearings are ther eon the outputs? just 1?
do you think rebuilding the case will fix my problem of lose output/input?
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:13 pm
by JrZook
brendan_h wrote:thanks. how mnay pilot bearings are ther eon the outputs? just 1?
do you think rebuilding the case will fix my problem of lose output/input?
To be honest mate i never could make sense of your last post concerning the "lose" output/input.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:31 pm
by MART
What did they quote you to change the bearings , Cheers Paul.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:55 pm
by brendan_h
they didnt. if there lose and the nuts are tight then it must be bearings i guess
by movment i mean when i am under the car the flanges move up and down
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:36 pm
by want33s
brendan_h wrote:the flanges move up and down
Why didn't you say that to start with????????????????????????
If the shafts/flanges can move vertically, the case must leak like a sieve!
Play vertically suggests bearings are beyond their 'use by' date.
Jas.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:38 pm
by brendan_h
yes she does leak. so rebuild kit a good thing then?
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:56 pm
by MART
Mate , if the shafts can move up and down , more than likely the gears will be shagged , and running with no oil definantly will shag them , you need to drop your case out , split it in half and check the damage , if it is not salvagable , get a second hand one to get your car going , SUZI FOUR at Dunheved will have the right one you need for arround $350 - $400 dollars , Where you at , PM me , Cheers Paul.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:58 pm
by brendan_h
i know suzi four. i do top the oil up. just i got crawler gears in then and dont want to lose them. so i though a rebuild would be alright.
it only moves up and down the slightest bit. i think enough to cause vibration
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:22 pm
by MART
You need to post some pics of the suspension setup , being spoa , your angle of the tailshaft is probably causing your vibrations or a group of reasons due to the spoa conversion. Where your tailshafts lengthened properly , do they wobble while spinning , Cheers Paul.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:19 pm
by GRPABT1
You put new transfer gears in without replacing the bearings?
I used this when changing my gears and it helped alot
http://www.trail-gear.com/tech/zuk65gears/index.html
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:21 pm
by want33s
Look up about 9 posts...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:06 pm
by zookprojectfnq
Hey want33s
Thanks for that trail gear step by step guide. just got a set of those 6.5 trail creeper gears from lockt up. Going to fit them tomorrow so that will help me heaps
Cheers
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:30 am
by Gwagensteve
So did I - bearings were removed, washed, checked, and reassembled. They weren't noisy when I took them out so I had no reason to assume they needed replacement. I have had no issues with transfer case noise at all since the gears went in so it worked out for me.
Steve.
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:16 am
by GRPABT1
Your just cheap steve
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:37 am
by lay80n
How much movement do you acutally have in the output flanges, can you give us a figure, not just "a little bit". I couldnt understand your last post at all (I'm not the only one it seems). As MART said, post up a heap of pics of your setup, before you go and tear into a t-case. Are your bearings in the t-case noisy at all?
Layto....
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:16 pm
by brendan_h
the rear shaft is on a 20* angle. however when it never vibrated this badly.
the movment would be no more then 2-3mm
bearings in the t-case i cant tell over the engine
the tail shaft is fine but there is about 1-2mm in the splines moving
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:57 pm
by brendan_h
what do you guys think i should do?
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:06 pm
by want33s
brendan_h wrote:what do you guys think i should do?
If your case is leaking oil out of the seals it will need to be pulled apart. You have to split the case to do some of the seals so while it's apart renew the bearings.
Jas.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:09 pm
by brendan_h
yer so buy that rebuild kit you recon? should i get the pilot bearings? there only an extra 10bucks each which is alright. but how many do i need?
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:23 pm
by want33s
The Lowrange kit has everything needed except maybe one of the little needle roller bearings. This bearing is encased in between the shafts so I'd say yours is still OK.
When I rebuilt my case I replaced it but the old one was just as good as the new one.
Jas.