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What should I buy
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:12 pm
by BrettH
Need a new 4by. The old 1989 Troopy is a bit long in the tooth and I am having difficulty in choosing another.
Cannot afford a new one but have 30 to 35k to spend.
I want a full sized 4wd and really have no reason not to get another troopy but I should look at all options. Must be Diesel. Offread work will account for a majority of its use as I currently have a Company car for general running around. Needs to be a good tow vehicle, boat and camper trailer to be dragged around. I am not a comfort king although a little more comforts than my current troopy would be a bonus.
What do you think would be the best value for the money I have ?
Nissan ? prefer 4.2 turbo
80 series ?
100 series?
75/78 series troopy?
Thanks in advance.
Brett
Re: What should I buy
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:42 pm
by -Scott-
BrettH wrote:Nissan ? prefer 4.2 turbo
80 series ?
100 series?
75/78 series troopy?
What? Not considering a Pajero?
(Ducking and running...)
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:44 pm
by Thor
not that i'd buy one (also ducks and runs) but a disco has the highest towing capacity i believe...
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:03 pm
by RaginRover
Thor wrote:not that i'd buy one (also ducks and runs) but a disco has the highest towing capacity i believe...
Disco and Rangie are the same and yes they are the highest manufacturer rated capacity
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:59 pm
by matthewK
why not try the nissan patrol 4.2L turbo diesel it would be right at home off road and seem to be in the top 3 all the time
has
alot of power too im told or rangie
no idea abotu rangies im told they r really good powerful and what not
sept when they break they hurt your wallet just what im told
but it really preferance
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:02 pm
by Daisy
Patrol 4.2 diesel.. with aftermarket turbo
Do yourself a favour.. edit the post and put up your options in a poll and let everyone vote for what they think is best.
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:23 pm
by BrettH
GQ wrote:Patrol 4.2 diesel.. with aftermarket turbo
Do yourself a favour.. edit the post and put up your options in a poll and let everyone vote for what they think is best.
I will try that. Thanks
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:33 pm
by ORSM45
remember once you go coils you will never wanna go back.
but either GQ patrol or 80 series. nothing wrong with the troopy tho. plenty of room if you wanna go camping.
MaccA
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:46 pm
by Kev80
Go the 80 series.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:17 pm
by Guy
RaginRover wrote:Thor wrote:not that i'd buy one (also ducks and runs) but a disco has the highest towing capacity i believe...
Disco and Rangie are the same and yes they are the highest manufacturer rated capacity
The GU and 100 are also rated at 3500Kg now I belive .. same as the rover products ...
towing
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:44 pm
by DR Frankenstine
disco's and rangies would have to be the biggest heap of shite to tow with that has ever had fuel wasted on it. Go the patrol best value for money. The 80 series or 100 series also tow well if you can put up with toyota's inherent problems and over pricing. I'm not talking out my as$e I know about tow vehicles as i sell caravans and 4x4 gear and test tow with every vehicle available.
Re: towing
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:48 pm
by Kev80
DR Frankenstine wrote: toyota's inherent problems
What problems are you refering to ?
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:51 pm
by glen1n
383FJ45 wrote:remember once you go coils you will never wanna go back.
Wouldn't your FJ45 have Leaf springs?
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:44 am
by MY45
I'd go the patrol as there big(for thr family or camping gear), powerful(plenty of grunt for towing), good on or off road and some of the off-the-shelf suspension mods for them are great.
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:14 am
by Screwy
patrol

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:44 am
by turps
Patrol - as for that type of coin you could probably get yourself an early GU 4.2 Turbo. if not an early 4.2 diesel and put a turbo on it. Also they are hard to break.
Where as mid90's turbo cruisers are still getting low to mid 30's and they usuallly have alot of k's on them.
Also if you are just after a low mileage one, try the auctions.
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:12 pm
by Mad Cruiser
Patrol GU or Landcruiser 100 series

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:18 pm
by BIG GQ
Buy the Patrol, put an aftermarket turbo on the thing, take it for a bash off road and you'll soon come to wonder why you even drove a toyota in the first place.
Patrols have it all over the toyota landcrab's in every aspect.
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:29 pm
by -Scott-
Put Pajero in the Poll !

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:36 pm
by BIG GQ
NJ SWB wrote:Put Pajero in the Poll !

Did you not read the bit saying offroad will account for most of its work and it needs to pull more than a empty box trailer this is why PATROL is the first option and is leading the poll.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:47 pm
by Guy
The patrols (GQ) had a tougher driveline than the 80 series but the 80 had better bodywork .. now the patrol's bodywork isn't exactly crap it will devlop a few more squeaks and rattles, that kind of thing.
The GU was about par with the 80 for the bodywork with essentially the same driveline as a GQ (a few gearbox mods and perhaps a different rear diff) but suspension etc is the same ...
Having spent same quality time behind the wheel a GQ, GU and an 80 .. I prefered the nissans onroad handling it is more "chuckable" in corners ect and was mroe predictable on the edge .. (you could generally do a 3,2,1 countdown as to when the rear end would step out) and I think that they carry a load better in stock form .. but once you get some decent suspenders under em that all evens out anyways ..
I guess the nissan is also easier to "bush mechanic" doe to an entirely less complex 4x4 and fuel system ..
Other than what is mostly opinion any of the trucks outlined will be great .. depending on the price they are going for .. but I would prefer coils to leaves anytime ...
Re: towing
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:48 pm
by GRIMACE
DR Frankenstine wrote:disco's and rangies would have to be the biggest heap of shite to tow with that has ever had fuel wasted on it. Go the patrol best value for money. The 80 series or 100 series also tow well if you can put up with toyota's inherent problems and over pricing. I'm not talking out my as$e I know about tow vehicles as i sell caravans and 4x4 gear and test tow with every vehicle available.
sniff sniff......................... I SMELL A NISSAN GURU
GET A Land Rover D110 Extreme

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:51 pm
by Maggot4x4
Im have a 6.5L V8 Turbo Diesel 80 for sale that would fit the bill nicely, Even give you change from 30k

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:10 pm
by BrettH
NJ SWB wrote:Put Pajero in the Poll !

With the gear that we travel with I think the pajero may be a little small.
Our 75 series troopy is ordinarily packed to the bottom of the windows for the full length of the rear section. Fishing ros and other bits are fixed to the roof on the inside.
I ahd a look at aPatrol yesterday and may need to re think the fishing rod thing if I go that way.
cheers
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:44 pm
by GRIMACE
Maggot4x4 wrote:Im have a 6.5L V8 Turbo Diesel 80 for sale that would fit the bill nicely, Even give you change from 30k

BUY THAT

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:10 pm
by ORSM45
AnthonyP wrote:Maggot4x4 wrote:Im have a 6.5L V8 Turbo Diesel 80 for sale that would fit the bill nicely, Even give you change from 30k

BUY THAT

second that!