Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hey guys i just found a place that imports toyota motors and he does the mighty 12HT for $7000 i couldnt believe my ears!!
Just letting ya's know if anyone needs one.

How much are they normally worth? Even that sounds a bit steep for me. Is that new ,recon, secondhand?

Most imports arew 24v too
Cheers Dan

SIMMO84 wrote:How much are they normally worth? Even that sounds a bit steep for me. Is that new ,recon, secondhand?

Thats new in crate from japan or china wherever they come from he said.
Its a good price, 99 percent of blokes i rang wanted 8 and over. so it is the best price i have heard of in atleast 3 yrs

How can this be possible i thought they were killed off after the 80 series come in ?
Can you see if he imports new roof's for 60's i think 100 % of people would want them

60 mad wrote:How can this be possible i thought they were killed off after the 80 series come in ?
Can you see if he imports new roof's for 60's i think 100 % of people would want them

Dont know mate maybe they are full reco jobs he was in a rush by the sound on the phone and he said new, i questioned it myself but he is the supplier, here he is

http://www.perth4wd.com.au/parts_new.html

On the heading it said low kilometer imports, and the photos looked like they were very good condition sec hand cars from japan.

If i had the money i'd get one and do everything to get it to be a really fast motor.

60 mad wrote:On the heading it said low kilometer imports, and the photos looked like they were very good condition sec hand cars from japan.

If i had the money i'd get one and do everything to get it to be a really fast motor.

My old one in the 60 was boosting only 11psi and with a 5spd, smoked a BRAND NEW 2006 landcruiser muster ute. He was not happy. Also smoked numerous 80 series with 4.2 turbo's, it was by far the fastest 60 i or anyone that seen it go, had ever come across.
Very tough motors.

My old mans is stock with 281,400 on it and goes pretty hard for an old motor but i'd love to up the boost, 3 inch straight through zorst, intercooler, lpg injection and whatever else it needs.

Looks clean, yeh i had no muffler at all, 2.5 inch from turbo down under the firewall and 3inch all the way out no muff, it sounded like a truck and the sound of the turbo spool up was magic

Yeah it's clean because my old man hates getting it dirty
You would be missing your old motor now that you have a boat anchor 2f

Hell yeah, and its in sydney rusting while im working over here in WA!! Im trekking over next month for a play though, cant wait!!

How much is it for a import 60 with one allready fitted????

would not be much more
concider it a packing crate

for an extra 2 grand you could get a 1HDFTE with heaps more grunt and use less fuel to

thrashlux

thrashlux wrote:How much is it for a import 60 with one allready fitted????

would not be much more
concider it a packing crate

for an extra 2 grand you could get a 1HDFTE with heaps more grunt and use less fuel to

thrashlux

I was looking at imports the other day just do a google search for 60 imports but they were expensive and looked weird

for an extra 2 grand you could get a 1HDFTE with heaps more grunt and use less fuel to

Would be interested to see what sort of economy a 1HDTFE gets, my near on stock 12-HT with over 400K on the clock was getting close to 9klm per litre driving back and forward to work, half highway, other half reasonably fast moving 60k zone.

Best thing about a 12-HT, stuff all electronics!!! My alternator died on me on the way back to Carins from Hinchinbrook (approx 2 hour drive) but no worries, I could still drive home and just use the battery for indicators and brake lights. Try doing that with a late model turbo diesel....

An issue to watch if you buy a 12-HT:

Here is a piston that came out of my engine before I rebuilt it. Note the top ring groove has been hammer out to nearly twice its width for about half of the piston diameter.



Yes, it was still running and running ok! I only found it as I pulled the engine down to freshen it up, but ended up doing a full rebuild. Even then after around 450K, there was no need to gring the crank, it was still in good condition, no cracks and within factory specs.

You may get newer engines making more power, but the old 12HT will do me. It cost me $1100.00 for a full rebuild of the injector pump and injectors, $1050.00 for full rebuild of the turbo (that included a new exhaust housing as the original was cracked) $1200.00 in machining the block, and reconditioning the head and fitting new cam bearings. Rebuild kit cost me around $1100.00, new pistons and rings (new pistons have a steel insert in the top ring groove so the groove doesnt get hammered out like the original pistons) main bearings, big end bearings, conrod bushes, oil pump gears valve and spring, etc. I used original gaskets, cant remember how much the set was, but it doesnt come with a head gasket (good on ya mr toyota ) factory head gasket is around $200.00, but dont use anything else as it wont last!!



I assembled it all myself, and did a major overhall on the rest of the cruiser also, bigger surg calipers on the front, axle widening kit, discs on the rear, airbags on the back springs etc etc..... Will last me another 20 years


With my Beaudesert exhausts 3.5" dump pipe to 3" mandrel bent exhaust (yes i am running a muffler, albeit straight through) top mount intercooler and a tweek on the turbo, I think I will have a pretty reliable, powerful rig, that wont be scared of a bit of water... !!!

Bloody hell flyology all your rig needs now is diesel gas then that would be the perfect motor.

Would it be possible to see some pics of your cruiser all put back together ?

Will take a few tomorrow and try and post them, might have a day off, might have to go into work....

I still have few things to do to finish it off, new carpet, refit the exhaust from the diff back (had to move it to clear the airbags), on board air comp, dash and stereo back in (bought one on those all in one jobby things with a 7" screen so the missus can watch DVDs when we go on holidays to the NT.

I wont know what to do with myself when it is finished!!!

Ok, here are a few pictures of my 60, still have a week or so's work left to do on her.









Grille is from an import (came with new headlight surrounds when I bought it off ebay for $100.00 ) I got it as someone knocked off my Turbo badge and I couldn't get another one anywhere..... looks nice with all the chrome








Below is a picture of the bracket I made to support the handbrake cable/s, front is a slightly modified 45 series, rear is custom Subaru. Not sure what vehicle the half moon cable puller is from, got it from the local brake reco bloke...






Below picture shows the tight fit for the 3" exhaust to get past the shock, airbag, spring and 190 litre tank, but it can be done....

Here is a piston that came out of my engine before I rebuilt it. Note the top ring groove has been hammer out to nearly twice its width for about half of the piston diameter. i think i might know what causes them pistons to flog out mechanic told me to change incectors at right time ie not if it starts to run rough.




top mount intercooler pics please as im thinking of geting one too once i finish my auto to 5 speed conversion. thanks

Can you post more pics of the LR tank? What type is it?

Flyology, that is one hell of a good job you've done there, and a beaut looking rig, it certainly will last another 20yrs plus!!
Mine is built solely for off road really so rough an tuff lookin i dont mind, if i did as much work on mine as you have yours i wouldnt wanna take it off road
Keep me posted on how much boost you use and how it goes and what not.
Cheers

12HT:
My top mount i/c is using a patrol/hilux (they are near identical but mine is a patrol) bonnet scoop, with an aftermarket intercooler I bought off ebay. I plan to have it fitted in the next few months after I have sorted any bugs once I am back on the road.
If you need any help with the auto to 5 speed conversion give me a holler, I did mine about 4 years ago, best thing I did! Fuel economy improved heaps! (my missus refuses to drive an auto.. )

Sixty's Guy:
Long range tank is a 4WD systems (South Australia) I bought it about 18 months ago when I noticed they had a special on fuel tanks, was $695.00. It cost me $200.00 in freight to get it to Cairns, fitted it myself. Quite easy to fit, well made. Only thing I would have changed (but a bit hard to) was having more baffles inside of it, as when I pull up I can hear the fuel sloshing around inside. (I can only just hear it, when the stereo is off, and there is not noise at all, so not a big issue)

Wozza244:
Thanks for the comments, I use mine as a daily driver, to tow my boat, taking off on holidays, and up the cape every now and then. I went over the top a bit with cleaning and repainting everything (Diffs, springs, steering etc) to the point of I was supposed to have it finished September just passed to go on holidays to the NT, but ended up leaving a few days late and taking the Missus's CRV
Though I must say that it is so much easier to work on when it is clean, and to me it just feels wrong puting new parts on to old dirty greasy stuff.
Paint and finish is not that flash when you get close, not worth having a flash paint job just to have it knocked around. I just touch it up with acrylic when it needs it.

Will post all the details of boost and egt temps when i am back on the road...

flyology wrote: Sixty's Guy:
Long range tank is a 4WD systems (South Australia) I bought it about 18 months ago when I noticed they had a special on fuel tanks, was $695.00. It cost me $200.00 in freight to get it to Cairns, fitted it myself. Quite easy to fit, well made. Only thing I would have changed (but a bit hard to) was having more baffles inside of it, as when I pull up I can hear the fuel sloshing around inside. (I can only just hear it, when the stereo is off, and there is not noise at all, so not a big issue)

Thanks for that. Any chance you can show pics from the rear and side so I can see how low it hangs?

That is a bloody good job you have done makes me wanna do the same if only i could prise my dad off it

i picked up my 12ht with a 5 speed for $3000 in great condition, $7000.... i wouldnt pay it. the motors are good but you could turbo a 350 v8 diesel for less than that and it would go harder, just my 2 cents

hi up date; friday night test drive with 5 speed all finished heaps better than auto. saturday fitted long ranger tank re fitted moded swaybar rear re paced rear wheel bearings. going camping next week.

[quote="flyology"]12HT:
My top mount i/c is using a patrol/hilux (they are near identical but mine is a patrol) bonnet scoop, with an aftermarket intercooler I bought off ebay. I plan to have it fitted in the next few months after I have sorted any bugs once I am back on the road.
If you need any help with the auto to 5 speed conversion give me a holler, I did mine about 4 years ago, best thing I did! Fuel economy improved heaps! (my missus refuses to drive an auto.. )
yee flyology had a 60 12ht 5speed before with only 272000km was heaps more economical than auto.

Here are the pics of my 190 liter tank:






sorry has taken so long to post, been a bit busy at work etc etc....

Thanks heaps for that. I take it that the tank mounts to the body like the old one? So with a 2" body lift it would be 2" higher?

Yeah, bolts to the original mounts, but used brakets on the tanks for the front, and a separate bracket for the rear, rather than straps. Do you want some photos of the mounts also?