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GV lift/tyre questions.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:52 am
by schmik
Hi guys, I'll post this here as i seem to have finally found a 4wd forum that has heaps of activity.
I recently picked up a 2004 2.5 manual GV. I wish to mod it a bit but nothing hardcore. I will use it as a daily driver and lots on the beach. Also there will be a some trips to the watagans (muddy forest) and around lithgow (quite rocky terrain).
I wish to lift it a bit and put bigger rubber on it.
I will just put the OME springs/struts/shocks on it (+40mm) and then larger tyres. Also to come will be a snorkel and sump protecting bash plate.
I have searched for the info i need but a few questions remain:
1. With the OME lift do i need anything else or is it just springs/struts/shocks. Rear prop spacer? camber bolts? or is that just for BIG lifts?
2. Tyres? Probably just stick BFG ATs on it. But what size. Stocks are 235/60/16. I would like to go to a 70series tyre. With the +40mm lift will 235/70/16 fit with no rubbing on the gaurds? I think that they will rub the chassis a bit at full lock but that is ok. I just don't want to cut or bash the body to make them fit. Will it all be much easier with 225/70/16 ?
3. Stupid question time. A snorkel. They way they are forward facing at the intake, doesn't rain go straight it when it is bucketing down? Or are they supposed to face down a bit not to suck up the rain.
cheers
mike
tyres
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:29 pm
by Beginner4x4
well all i can respond to is the tyres i have a tough dog 2.5' lift with
good year wrangler mt/r 225/75 R16 there is a tiny bit of rubbing but no major prob just dont turn wheel full lock were
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:59 pm
by schmik
Thanks for the reply. Did you just add the springs? or shocks/struts too?
With the lift kite did you need camber bolts or prop spacer too?
cheers
mike
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:03 pm
by fordy1
Hi again
the ome is a good kit, you might need some camber bolts but you will not need a prop shaft spacer, 225/75/16 are a good fit and if you bend the 10mm tab under the front you will have no at full lock on no suspension lift
I still have not done the front of mine and im running 225/75/16s but i did lift the rear 4inches today and it has some nice flex
flex last week
and flex now !!!
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:10 pm
by fordy1
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:26 pm
by schmik
Thanks Tim.
Your GV is lookin good! Thanks heaps for those pics. Much appreciated.
How do you think it would go with 235/70 instead of 225/75. I probably won't need to bend the tab then but i worry about the width. I think (from all the pics i have seen) that the front will be fine. I just worry about the rear at full flex and the 235s hitting the gaurd, what do you think?
In those flex shots how close was the tyre to the gaurd on the other side.
BTW, of the top of your head, do you know if the 2006+ model runs the same offset rims?
cheers
mike
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:10 pm
by fordy1
Hi
Thanks mate.
No you will be fine with that size, a few poeple have been going that size to, and the tyres will not scrub at the rear, the pic is a little dark but is not as close as it looks
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:38 pm
by murcod
Don't get too concerned on which size until you find out what tyres you can actually buy those two sizes.
There isn't a huge selection to choose from - particularly in 235/70R16.
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:58 pm
by schmik
I looked it up before i asked... BFG AT is available in that size.
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/specs/al ... ko/44.html
Because they are on the website does that mean i can get them here? dunno!?!?
Bridgestone dueler AT do come in that size too:
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/treads/d694.aspx
I know coopers don't come in that size.
cheers
mike
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:33 am
by schmik
Here she is. Stock. And the Wifes shiny new one in the rear
It's almost laughable compared to the hardcore sierras you see in this forum but it.... to each their own. You gotta start somewhere.
cheers
mike
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:16 pm
by fordy1
ah to have two GVs!! it makes me want to cry
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:21 pm
by Beginner4x4
when you get the bigger tyre size (ie 225/75r16) the speedo will be wrong.
how do you fix this ?
how much dose it cost ?
and can i do it my self ?
Re: tyres
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:11 am
by dearot
Beginner4x4 wrote:well all i can respond to is the tyres i have a tough dog 2.5' lift with
good year wrangler mt/r 225/75 R16 there is a tiny bit of rubbing but no major prob just dont turn wheel full lock were
can u post ur GV pic??
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:18 am
by schmik
I can see a number of solutions to the speedo issue.
Get a garmin or tomtom gps and use that.
Calculate the speedo difference and pop some stickers on your dash.
Follow a friend and record what speeds your speedo says and remember it/use stickers.
There probably is such a device as a speed correction unit but i wouldn't bother. Speedos are using under your actual speed so if you go up a bit in tyre size then you are correct. BUt if you go up lots..........
So for a 225/75 from a 235/60 you are 8.1% too slow. So when your speedo says 100k you are doing 108.1k. But my speed is about 3k under the gps readings (can they be trusted). So at 100k on the speedo it would be 105k in real life. I intend on using 235/70 which is only 6.8% out so i wouldn't bother trying to fix it.
mike
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:12 pm
by schmik
Have a look at
http://www.marks4wd.com/products/tyre_m ... ction.html
They mention the suzi jimni and i'd guess the GV uses a similar speedo. Give them a call. Let us know how you get on.
mike
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:16 pm
by Beginner4x4
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:45 pm
by schmik
Either upload a very very small file. Or point the [img] tags at a another site where you have already uploaded the pics (like flickr.com).
The more the merrier eh!
mike
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:52 pm
by grazza
Here's mine:
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:15 pm
by Beginner4x4
see if this works
its not working
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:42 pm
by schmik
the [img] has to point at a jpg file.
eg
http://hotmidgetlove.com/bigun.JPG[/i m g]
mike
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:18 pm
by Beginner4x4
oh this is gay
y cant i do this
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:40 pm
by Moph
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:56 pm
by Beginner4x4
Yay got it
thanks Moph
have since added -
- 5% tint windows not that #%@& 35% stuff,
- cb radio and 4.5 db antenna
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:34 am
by schmik
Guys, nice pics. Can you post up the details of your GVs, ie, what kind of lift (please specify springs, spacers, shocks) and tyres, brand and size.
Thanks heaps.
mike
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:29 am
by grazza
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:28 am
by dearot
schmik wrote:Guys, nice pics. Can you post up the details of your GVs, ie, what kind of lift (please specify springs, spacers, shocks) and tyres, brand and size.
Thanks heaps.
mike
Yup those details will help us all here...
Yes nice pics!! Cant wait to get mine lifted. hopefully before end of this year *fingers cross*
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:13 pm
by Beginner4x4
Well i have a 2.5 inch lift
Tough dog nitrogen gas charged shocks and tough dog springs
Tyres
Goodyear wranglers mt/r LT 225 / 75 / R16
i did not put these on my car i bought the car like this
i also have fitted -
- GME tx4200 UHF
- Pioneer head unit (deh-P5750MP)
hate the gap down the sides of both head units will fill them as soon as i find something
- JCV 6' Speakers
- fusion 10' sub
- GME Antenna heavy duty 4.5db AE4018K1
- self made rail antenna mount
- 5% window tinting (like on limos)
would like to -
- put spacers in for more lift
- bash plate to protect front dif
- and DIF LOCKERS
if anyone know of somewhere were i can get these and how much it would cost me please do tell
Ps look at me go with these pics now
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:13 pm
by dearot
ask fordy1, I think he sells those stuff...
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:22 pm
by TheOtherLeft
Beginner4x4 wrote:
- GME Antenna heavy duty 4.5db AE4018K1
- self made rail antenna mount
That antenna mount looks cool. I'm also thinking about trying to fab up something like that.
Do you know what parts you used to make it?
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:29 pm
by Beginner4x4
the part which is around the rail is just a 2-3 mm aluminum bent to shape with 5 mm bolts and lock thread nuts the other part i bought off ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nagoya-RB-46-ant ... 240%3A1318
i drilled into the rail and then the bad thing that i did was i had to go through the roof but rust proof it and when the cable was in i siliconed the crap out of it have taken it though the car wash and left it out in the rain and did not leak
it is strong enough to drive with the antenna up as well
can sent you some detailed pictures and some drawings if you like