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custom 4x4 comps

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:54 pm
by browny_x
hey all

just wondering if anyone knows if there is comps that you can have a fully mod'ed 4x4 (un reg' able) to race with other then tough dog ones.

just want to know as if there is a whole world of events out there then i can go wild on my lux

thanks ppl

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:59 pm
by Gwagensteve
Not in victoria that I'm aware of.

Mudracing might be it that I can think of in vic.

In any case, the end result is a car you've got lots of work in and can drive for minutes each year.

Unregistered cars are not cool.

Steve.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:46 pm
by dogbreath_48
Gwagensteve wrote:Not in victoria that I'm aware of.

Mudracing might be it that I can think of in vic.

In any case, the end result is a car you've got lots of work in and can drive for minutes each year.

Unregistered cars are not cool.

Steve.
I recall hearing CCDA was looking into an unreg'd class? Just a rumor at this stage thought, i suspect.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:26 pm
by hammey
cliffhanger is one but you may want to have a look first if its going to be your first comp ;)

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:28 pm
by browny_x
yeah itll be my first comp style driving, its just right now the girl aint really road worthy enough to keep driving on the road but not customed up enough to be in major comps, im kinda stuck half way

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:29 am
by pigletracing
rock crawling events perhaps ???

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:41 am
by Gwagensteve
Unless you own lots and lots of land, you'll never get enough seat time in an unregistered car in victoria to learn how to drive it once you've built it.

Even if you competed in everything possible, you'd spend half your life trailering your car from event to event.

Rockcrawling? In a hilux? I drove in the first OZ-Rock in December 2005 and there were cars with plates on them there (meaning that a bodied car like a hilux could have been OK) but it very quickly became a buggy only thing and having been involved in preparing a previously registered, bodied car for rockcrawling its way better to build a buggy from scratch.

In any case, if the event allows unregistered cars it's going to have some pretty radical machinery in it, so a hilux based car is going to struggle, even mudracing is pretty advanced and you'd be building the whole car for something like 6 rounds a year, so that's about 18 runs of the course lasting a couple of minutes each per year.

No, I'll still say if you have a car that's basically able to be/stay registered any work you do to keep it registered is money and time well spent. Pulling it off the road will be a major PITA.

Just my 2C.

Steve.

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:45 am
by dogbreath_48
Gwagensteve wrote:
No, I'll still say if you have a car that's basically able to be/stay registered any work you do to keep it registered is money and time well spent. Pulling it off the road will be a major PITA.

Just my 2C.

Steve.
Probably cheaper and easier to make it legal than to make it competitive, too!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:05 am
by Gwagensteve
I was going to say that too.

In short - probably 80% of comps are designed for registered cars, and a bodied car isn't going to have a hope in the other 20%.

Steve.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:17 pm
by browny_x
fair enough, is there any real extreme type 4x4ing comps apart form rock climbing around???? money and time arnt really a prob as i do all the mods from scratch, im lucky cos i have all the machinery i will ever need and dads pretty handy with metal work.

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:55 pm
by nzdarin
One advantage we have in NZ is that we have a club class that you can compete in without being road legal. The rules are the same as for a raod legal truck but you don't need indicators and that sort of stuff. Designed for beginners as it makes it a cheap entry level option.
The rules still require the same level of mechanical integrity though.