Outer Limits 4x4 Board

ok i have an mq/k swb
the rear shackle goes through the chassis
now just a thought ppl put extended shackles on yeah
my mq has the bent type shackles
could you in theory make a new spring hanger/shackle point that sat in line with the existing one so it mounts underneath the chassis
so in theory using normal length shackles but still getting that lil bit of lift
is it possible would it work etc hopefully i have made sense lol

i am looking at doing similar...i will also have the shaclke mount 20mm further back to give a better shackle angle...i have 2" lifted springs and snake racing extended shackles.
see here:
front will use a new crossmember below chassis rails and bolted with shackle mounts 20-25mm back from originals.

how are you making the hangers for the rears and wat bushes etc

the same way that the shackle is mounted to the chassis as standard. same size whole, same bushes, everything the same except dropped

my rear shackle the top goes through the chassis
i was thinking of making the new hanger but i have not pulled mine aprt to see how it fits i am guessing its a pipe of some sort
was thinking of just changin it so its the straight shacle instead of the bent shackle type
i spose i would have to see an mq with diff shackle mount

as does mine. i will take the assembly from the chassis and put it into action in the chassis drop.

ok so how are you making yours etc do i just maka plate with the pipe type whole etc or wat
i havnt played around with suspension b4 so just havin lil trouble picturing it
or could i make a hanger similar to the fronts and use just a straight shakle would that work?
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what you are talking about is how the gq/gu leafies mount the shackles.

I believe superior engineering and snake racing both make weld on replacement shackle mounts to suit hilux, cruiser and prob patrol.

Do a search on a swb mq or mk, there was a build done by mattstar that had this conversion.

thankya nasty will do

Stokedapollo if you want to look on my build up I have a photo of the rear hanger I made for my MK, I used my original shackles but you could use extended shackles as well, I used larger bushes which should give more flex than the Nissan bushes. I think from memory the bushed are from a Toyota set.

http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/show ... 736&page=2

I have had this running on the road for some time now and it has worked well.

thanks jc i will look

hey jc i notice in your build up they talk bout the angle of the pinion etc and loose handling
if i add extended shackles or leave the originals will that affect mine much as i have swb ?

Stokedapollo a SWB is affected more so than a LWB with the angle of pinion to the tail shaft, I used the original shackles from my wagon, I could have used a set from the utility as they are 10 centimeter longer which is bugger all in the scheme of things.

I have had little affect on the handling of my Nissan other than it is about 35 centimeters taller than before, this is about the same lift I got out of the front by changing to the lighter engine.

ty jc wat is the negative handling that you guys mean will i do any damage or i should be fine

The higher you make the vehicle, the vehicle become less stable. But I have had little affect on my Nissan, but I do notice the added height on sharp corners at high speed.

As for the pinion angle from what I understand it should be close to parallel to the output shaft of the transfer case, otherwise you will get vibrations or extra ware on the universals. By lifting the suspension you are changing these angles. You could have to use caster wedges to bring the angles back to where they should be.

cool the hieght affect i thought would be an issue but nothing major and the angle well they seem easy to fix so nuthin bad in reality
thankyou for ya help
it was me old mans 4wd so not partin with it he gave it to me b4 he died so will keep it till it dies completly wich will be a long long time

hey jc just a quick q
the pipe for the bush wat size etc did you use and wall thickness thats the only bit im consernred about all the rest i am confident in
i can build just about anything so that bits fine but not too sure on the pipe diam
cheers in advance

As I said I think the bushes are from a Toyota, they don’t come together as the mount is wider than Toyota, so I cut one bush down to make up the difference (three bushes per side). I just took the bush down to my local steel shop and got a short piece of pipe that was a tight fit for the bushes.

cheers jc
does it help with flex having it set up like that at all ?

It should as the bushes are a fair bit thicker than the Nissan bushes, the shackles can now flex more than the factory setup.
I have found that in my Nissan it seems to work better than before, but I do need longer shocks to get the full benefit of the modification. This is one of the jobs on my to do list.

cool ty jc
as stated once b4 this was my dads 4by and he gave it to me b4 he dies so i want to keep it and i wont be getting rid of it so i am sure its going to get lots things done over the years