Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Since no-one is reading the other forums....

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=15829

It is not that people aren't reading the other forums it is that people haven't lifted them before. You are going to find that you may want to investigate getting a different vehicle. Sorry to break it to you but the Bravo is not really a vehicle that lends itself as a buildup platform. With next to no industry support you are basically on your own with custom stuff.

You really need to think out what you want to gain with putting more money and time into your current rig. is it worth all the time and effort? Would you be better off getting rid of it and maybe buy a Hilux etc. Something with an easier platform to build with.

grimbo wrote: is it worth all the time and effort?

Is anything? In that great aussie tradition, I'm going down the adapt and improvise road.

I could get rid of it but the sentimental value is there. The other attraction is that it is different. If everyone just got "something else" then we would not see any diversity. Would N.A.M get rid of the portals because nobody is doing anything with them in volume?

Nah, too many people have told me "you carn't" which means I'm just gonna have to try a bit harder. This is my "Mid Life Crisis" and I'm not gonna play by the rules

Nev62 wrote:

grimbo wrote: is it worth all the time and effort?

Is anything? In that great aussie tradition, I'm going down the adapt and improvise road.

I could get rid of it but the sentimental value is there. The other attraction is that it is different. If everyone just got "something else" then we would not see any diversity. Would N.A.M get rid of the portals because nobody is doing anything with them in volume?

Nah, too many people have told me "you carn't" which means I'm just gonna have to try a bit harder. This is my "Mid Life Crisis" and I'm not gonna play by the rules

I thought this would be a response. What I'm getting at is how much can you do yourself and how much will someone else who charges money do? I'm all for doing something different. i got that response when I first started modding the Zuk. But there has to be a time when you stop and think "Will the outcome be as good or better than if I had started with something that was more suited" if wasted time and money are a concern. If they aren't then cool it would be great to see a fully worked Courier getting it awwnnn out there. good luck and keep us posted with build up pics

Nev, I fully understand what your going through mate.
Having a Paj I was in a similar situation but not as bad as there is some aftermarket stuff out there.
The problem is you can't do it all by yourself and will need the help of others be it from chat forums or engineering shops etc.
I was lucky that I have a good support base to work from and the Pajero Club. Also the help from overseas guys has been invaluable. We have all pooled our knowledge and resources. There are mods being done to Paj's that were only pipe dreams 3-4 years ago. Back then low range t/case gears were talked about in awe now they are a reality at the cost of a Nissan/Toyo set.
Don't give up if you luv your truck, be patient and badger the crap out of anyone who'll listen. Be prepared to do a lot of work yourself and research stuff to the enth degree. Get all the workshop manuals pull shit apart to understand how it works, look at other Jap utes for possible compatibility and ideas. Go on all the chat forums and scrounge all the imfo you can, make contacts and hopefully development costs can be shared or group buys organized.
It's amazing how the big boys respond when they are flooded with emails from all over the world, thats how we convinced ARB to develop the Mitsi front airlocker.
Good luck.

Frank.

Bitsamissin wrote:Nev, I fully understand what your going through mate.
Having a Paj I was in a similar situation but not as bad as there is some aftermarket stuff out there.
The problem is you can't do it all by yourself and will need the help of others be it from chat forums or engineering shops etc.
I was lucky that I have a good support base to work from and the Pajero Club. Also the help from overseas guys has been invaluable. We have all pooled our knowledge and resources. There are mods being done to Paj's that were only pipe dreams 3-4 years ago. Back then low range t/case gears were talked about in awe now they are a reality at the cost of a Nissan/Toyo set.
Don't give up if you luv your truck, be patient and badger the crap out of anyone who'll listen. Be prepared to do a lot of work yourself and research stuff to the enth degree. Get all the workshop manuals pull shit apart to understand how it works, look at other Jap utes for possible compatibility and ideas. Go on all the chat forums and scrounge all the imfo you can, make contacts and hopefully development costs can be shared or group buys organized.
It's amazing how the big boys respond when they are flooded with emails from all over the world, thats how we convinced ARB to develop the Mitsi front airlocker.
Good luck.

Frank.

Ditto.........................................


Don't be put off just because it hasn't been done HERE IN AUSTRALIA. It does not mean that it has not been done....."Google is your friend"

Contact some of the "second tier" suppliers and ask for their assistance, they are the ones that will spend the time with you to achieve what you want. Simply forget getting any significant assistance from the likes of ARB and TJM.


There are also quite a few knockers on this board. Each of us has our own reasons for wanting to do whatever to our vehicles.

In your case Nev62, a 2" or thereabouts lift should not be difficult to do. The first thing you have to do is establish whether you have captive bolt in your floor going to the chassis mounts (more than likely), or removable bolts or a combination of the two. If you have the captive bolts measure how much thread is showing and add 5-10 mm (allowing for Nylock nuts instead of nuts with a seperate locknut) this will give you the amount of easy bodylift that you should be able to achieve (probably wont be your desired 2", but may be good enough). Next is a trip to a wrecker to get some measurements, dia of bolt inside the rubber mount diameter of rubber mount. Count the number of mounts and go to a machine shop and have them made. Have a GOOD look at things like length of all hoses (P/S, heater, radiator, fuel, etc), brakelines, handbrake cables, and clearance to linkages (transmission/tcase). Make sure the wheels you are proposing to fit will not foul on the bodywork (use a cardboard cutout) or if they do foul, that you have enough meat to trim in the guards without structurally compromising the firewall/lower part of the a pillar, or other important structures. It is also important to look closely at the steerng, may need to make sure you have enough slip in the slipjoint connecting the steering wheel and what can be done to lengthen it should it be necessary. It should be a weekend of gravel rash to the back of the head to get all the info anfd a good idea of what is involved.




That, my friends is a constructive reply. Should be more of it.............

Thanking you all kindly. The mechanicals are not a problem. It is fabrications that are going to cause some problems but where there is a will, there is a way.

No one is knocking him.

Grimbo's reply was only in response to the initiall "Since no one is reading the other forums"

Fact is no one has done it, so no one has replied...

Nev

This may be helpful. David was in a similar situation to you, couldn't find anybody to give useful advice so he just went ahead and did it! Maybe you could approach your body lift the same way? From the index go to "Tech" and "Body Lift".

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~grungle ... ndex1.html

Good luck,

Scott