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Fabrication parts
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:47 pm
by Slunnie
Is there anybody in Aus that does fabrication parts with a range like this?
Its almost keep the welder and throw the workshop away stuff and I'm liking it.
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/All ... _34-1.html
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:56 pm
by 75 cruser
it would make coil conversions a heap easier, with less fabracation time, i havent seen any places that do any thing close, with all the trucks being modified, thier could be a business to be made,
rob
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:13 pm
by Slunnie
Thats exactly it. I have "windows" to do this type of work in and it would cut time down by a rediculous amount. There are some parts available locally, especially for Toyota etc, though they are crazy expensive here.
This type of thing would probably cut (for me) a couple of weeks of work down to probably 2 days to link something or whatever and probably cut conversion costs for business as you cut the old stuff off and weld the new bits on.
As a guide, a pair of Toy front spring hangers are about $175pr locally, where something similar is $20US (say $60AU landed).
Its also the range and quality though... a one stop shop. Its just a shame there isn't anything here that I know of that is like it.
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:23 am
by bru21
Hey mate I am starting an Australian equivalent. I have one gusset and one spotlight tab so far. Its dear to start off as I have to buy 200 of each to get pricing realistic. If you have something specific I can work with the laser cutters / cnc folders to get your desired result.
regards
Bru
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:43 am
by bubs
I to have been trying to get a similar sort of business setup.
I have shock tabs, coil over tabs to suit 1.5 & 1.75" tube.
4 Link chassis brackets to suit patrol a mung things.
Shock tabs
4 link brackets
And on special one off items I can get good pricing as I spend a lot of $'s regularly with my suppliers.
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:49 am
by bru21
Bubs stuff is top notch.
I have bought from him in the past.
cheers bru
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:52 pm
by locktup4x4
I just finished this prototype. I'm sending it down to Chris for fitting and testing. Once I know everything is good this is one of many projects we are working on that will go into production.
This is an upper rear shock mount. Production will done in Au.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:54 pm
by Steve F
bru21 wrote:Hey mate I am starting an Australian equivalent. I have one gusset and one spotlight tab so far. Its dear to start off as I have to buy 200 of each to get pricing realistic. If you have something specific I can work with the laser cutters / cnc folders to get your desired result.
regards
Bru
Pics of the gussets? I've been looking on US sites and the gussets are cheap but I'd rather support someone local.
Cheers
Steve
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:18 pm
by Roctoy
There are a few of us on here that cut and supply laser cut brackets and tabs, it has been purposely quiet over the past 6 months due to the increased cost of steel, however the prices have reduced somewhat so keep an eye out in the for sale section from time to time.
An if you do need anything custom done, both Bubs and myself are happy to give you comparative quotes for it.
regards Chris
Re: Fabrication parts
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:24 pm
by jeep97tj
So to answer his Q there are a bunch of people that can organize to have stuff cut out for u but there is no place where u can scroll through the tabs and order some of this and a few of them and several of those.
Re: Fabrication parts
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:33 pm
by bubs
jeep97tj wrote:
So to answer his Q there are a bunch of people that can organize to have stuff cut out for u but there is no place where u can scroll through the tabs and order some of this and a few of them and several of those.
Exactly, the market out here is not big enough to warrant stocking all the items like ballistic, btf, aafab etc in the states do. Although my range of items is small, I have 1000's tied up in stock between tabs, shackles etc.
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:46 pm
by Slunnie
No probs at all. Thanks for this fellas.
So if I pm you or whatever the things that I'm looking for, then you can see if its a possibility to manufacture these and quote in that case.
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:48 pm
by bubs
Slunnie wrote:No probs at all. Thanks for this fellas.
So if I pm you or whatever the things that I'm looking for, then you can see if its a possibility to manufacture these and quote in that case.
correct
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:51 pm
by Slunnie
No probs, thanks for all of this, this is excellent.
I'll get my shtuff together and contact you.
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:06 pm
by scottys triton
awwersyh
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:28 pm
by THICKNICK
a lot of fabricators can do this sort of work, but would be no where near that sort of price. 99% of that stuff is mass produced laser cut/ cnc then welded together.
it would cost hundreds of thousands if not millions to get that sort of range and at a reasonable price.
and there is just not enough demand to put that sort of money up front
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:01 pm
by 75 cruser
here`s an idea, you dont need to keep all the brackets in stock, just have a web site, with all the picutures of the brackets, tabs etc, when some orders them, you just cut them and send them out,
rob
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:09 pm
by Slunnie
75 cruser wrote:here`s an idea, you dont need to keep all the brackets in stock, just have a web site, with all the picutures of the brackets, tabs etc, when some orders them, you just cut them and send them out,
rob
Thats what I would have thought to . If they are not welded then they can also be flat packed. Laser cutters are exy though.
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:27 pm
by Rhett
I don't think theywill just cnc some out evey time they get ordered unless its a very big order
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:42 pm
by bubs
Rhett wrote:I don't think theywill just cnc some out evey time they get ordered unless its a very big order
they will, it costs more though, and website prices would be POA
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:58 am
by bru21
I have had quotes from laser cutters for 100 units. Then decided to order 200 units and the cost has been less than the total cost for 100 units
Me thinks they thumb suck the price
Re: Fabrication parts
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:41 am
by oldmate
if you want an australian version of that site, just add an extra 0 to the prices.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:10 am
by Slunnie
bru21 wrote:I have had quotes from laser cutters for 100 units. Then decided to order 200 units and the cost has been less than the total cost for 100 units
Me thinks they thumb suck the price
I'm finding a fair bit of that from materials suppliers. It makes it fricken hard to forecast when the prices depend on a combination of the weather, the time of day, who you speak to and where we're up to in the lunar cycle.

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:37 pm
by chimpboy
bubs wrote:Slunnie wrote:No probs at all. Thanks for this fellas.
So if I pm you or whatever the things that I'm looking for, then you can see if its a possibility to manufacture these and quote in that case.
correct
What sort of drawings etc would you need to work from?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:09 pm
by YankeeDave
we do this sort of work as our bread and butter. Price goes significanly lower as qty goes up as it's all based on set up times.
the more you order the more they can run with out changing material/ lens for laser cutter, or changing out tooling in a Break press, and no one makes money during set ups, so they charge more for less parts.
Best bet is make to order and charge a bit more for the small aussie market, unless it's a high moving part.
IF anybody has any designs shoot me a drawing or dxf and i can get some cut and folded for you, or supply a quote.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:40 pm
by joeblow
been trying to get coil stuff underway but as soon as you think your ready....prices change. but they are getting better.....just wish they would stay the same for a little while at least.
