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can anyone fit me up a el falcon alt upgrade to my zook
will pay good money to get it fitted
any one knows how to do it
how much im in melbourne
thanks

dude they bolt straight in
these are good things to do yourself to learn about cars.
cheers andrew

dont you have a 1.6 now?
im not sure if this mod will be as easy as a 1.3.

It's an easy job Wideaz all the info you need is on here and you'll get more satisfaction from having a go yourself just gather all the info and parts you need and give it a crack! Here is the info you need:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic137417.php
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... p?t=116388
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic79826.php

Read thru this lot and you should have a firm grasp on doing this mod.

Cheers Robb.

thanks guys

yeah i have the 1.6 so i wonder if this will be any different
any one done this mod on a 1.6 carby

yeah I did the swap on my old 1.6 carby vit donk in my sierra. It was a straight bolt up practically, and I just changed the plug on the alternator, and all was good. I left the extra wide pully on the alternator, cause the vit donk is only a 4 rib wide or something like that?
Have a go mate, you will learn first hand then!

Cheers Superduki.

thanks superduki thats exactly what i needed to know
i will do this mod asap
also i got quoted 285 dollars for a brand new one
so i take it everyone got one at the wreckers
cheers

Yep - wreckers are the go.

Steve.

thanks steve got one already 70 bucks with 1 month warrenty

change of mind actually im paying 100 bucks with 3 months warrenty and its the 110amp mitishibisnt ghia el fairmony alt

just wondering i need the v pulley alt dont i
reading the bible threads say the v pulley is the one i need and it doesnt matter if is a short pulley or long pulley cause my belt will fit on either way
correct???????????

Are you sure you need a v pulley? I thought coilers had Multi V stock, and you have a vitara motor and these are often (always) multi V?

It's an easier (and better) job if your existing alternator is multi V - multi V belts cope with the load of the big alternator better.

Steve.

ok ill get the mulity v pulley on the alt
i dont know what my 1.6 has ill check tonight
i just dont want to brake belts like some people have
i cant believe it clears everything fine just redrill and bolt in
this is a great upgrade

all i know is when i looked at it the sticker says mitishibshi 50a
i dont need this upgrade but thought it would be good to have
more charge power is always good to have

All the 110A alternators are multi V - you have to swap it to single V if that's what your block runs.

a single V belt is definitely marginal with the 110A alternator.

Steve.

Single V may be marginal but I've done 5000k's on mine with no stretch or noticeable signs of wear thus far. I do carry a spare though, just in case

I've struggled with belt slip.

Note also that falcons use a wider belt than suzuki, so a suzuki belt doesn't fit 100% properly in the falcon pulley.

Steve.

boys you wont beieve it

the falcon alt with 110amps bolted up straight away
no redrilling no machineing no new bolts

just changed the wire connections and used my original bolts and new belt

whole thing cost $150 with 2 new belts
took 1.5 hrs to do

now the zook starts like its on steriods all my lights winch thermo all work great with out any drop in revs or voltage
highly recommend

Gwagensteve wrote:I've struggled with belt slip.

Note also that falcons use a wider belt than suzuki, so a suzuki belt doesn't fit 100% properly in the falcon pulley.

Steve.

Hmmm. Never noticed that before, but just checked and you're right - Falcon pulley is maybe 1 - 1.5mm wider. Belt still seems to jam in there okay though.

Haven't had any audible belt slip and I'm pretty picky with squealing bits on my cars. Am running the EL Fairmont Ghia 110A alt - not sure if it's maybe higher quality / turns more freely than the Falcon 100A???

wideaz wrote:boys you wont beieve it

the falcon alt with 110amps bolted up straight away
no redrilling no machineing no new bolts

just changed the wire connections and used my original bolts and new belt

whole thing cost $150 with 2 new belts
took 1.5 hrs to do

now the zook starts like its on steriods all my lights winch thermo all work great with out any drop in revs or voltage
highly recommend

meet our new DIY convert wideaz. There will be no stopping him now

pics
no mods to the top bracket? good stuff

wideaz wrote:now the zook starts like its on steriods all my lights winch thermo all work great with out any drop in revs or voltage
highly recommend

Please note the alternator makes no difference to the starting capability of your engine, it's all battery baby yeah.

maybe my batterys werent getting aenough charge now its starts better

ill get the pics tonight up for you all

yeah no mods to the bracket at all no mods anywhere just had to join the wires and it started perfectly
didnt have to change wires fuses regualtors and i had no problems with my battery lights staying on or not coming on it went smooth as
one of my best mods to my zook

NO MODIFYING ANTHING BUT WIRES DIRECT BOLT IN FOR 1.6

man thats one pretty engine bay
never seen one so clean on a zook

He must use that special carwash they've been promoting at maccas drivethrough.

ajsr wrote:man thats one pretty engine bay
never seen one so clean on a zook

U hav'nt seen mine then. Detailed to within an inch of it's life I don't like to get my hands dirty when I'm working on it

lol came this close to new posting instead of reply.

Wideaz, looks good
Could you post a closeup pic of the ford sticker showing the part number and other details, it is visible in your third photo? Cheers

Also I'm trawling through all the 4pk bosch and ingram alternators to try and find a pulley that will fit on the ford alternator and allow a better fit than a 4pk belt on a 6pk pulley. Can anyone tell me the shaft diameter of the ford alt?

I may even find an different alt that comes stock with a 4pk pulley and is still a direct bolt up.

well done wideaz!

you ok!

untill you start to dribble again!

but for now your doing good!
good tech!

ashley

just make sure the pulleys are square to each other,as they are wider than the belt..if not the belt may drift under load and high revs ,and end up throwing off..TEARS!!

can you tell us the wiring for futre refernce. or what you did.

cheers

tails.