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No NCOP untill June or July!

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:15 pm
by SIM79
Just got of the phone with Queensland Transport and they the NCOP won't start untill June or July and the NCOP draft still isn't finalized so they couldn't tell what will be legal yet.

Re: No NCOP untill June or July!

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:15 pm
by bogged
SIM79 wrote:Just got of the phone with Queensland Transport and they the NCOP won't start untill June or July and the NCOP draft still isn't finalized so they couldn't tell what will be legal yet.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: what year?
Someone call centerbet and see what odds you get..

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:23 pm
by SIM79
09 :D

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:44 pm
by love ke70
i wonder if we can start a small wager and see who comes up with the right answer, im building my track/street car to qld transport standards, not NCOPS, coz i think it will be the new year before we see NCOPS.

theyre relatively close in most respects anyway, so just try and build it to both...

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:19 am
by bogged
love ke70 wrote:i wonder if we can start a small wager and see who comes up with the right answer,
so you say next yr?
Sim this yr (dreaming!!)
I'll go it wont happen, it will go in the too hard basket.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:35 am
by 1MadEngineer
bogged wrote:
love ke70 wrote:i wonder if we can start a small wager and see who comes up with the right answer,
so you say next yr?
Sim this yr (dreaming!!)
I'll go it wont happen, it will go in the too hard basket.
and you can bet it will be severely fornicated QLD transport version which will be almost exactlty the same as what we have currently.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:30 pm
by love ke70
february/march next year i reckon. :lol:

there shouldnt be different versions for different states, thats the whole idea of it being a national code of practice, so that different states cant make different rules so theres not so much confusion.

but all its gonna be is a bunch of engineers who are going to be consistantly vague across the state, rather than differing one state to the next, so should make moving interstate easier

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:01 pm
by fool_injected
Why is everybody so parinoid of NCOP

Firstly they are only guidelines

Secondly you can go beyond it's limitations however you need to prove to the engineer that it has been safely with all considerations (no different to as it is now)

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:13 pm
by bogged
fool_injected wrote:Why is everybody so parinoid of NCOP

Firstly they are only guidelines

Secondly you can go beyond it's limitations however you need to prove to the engineer that it has been safely with all considerations (no different to as it is now)
People are not paranoid, but people in Qld are pulling themselves at the prospect of running a few mods legally.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:01 am
by zagan
bogged wrote:
fool_injected wrote:Why is everybody so parinoid of NCOP

Firstly they are only guidelines

Secondly you can go beyond it's limitations however you need to prove to the engineer that it has been safely with all considerations (no different to as it is now)
People are not paranoid, but people in Qld are pulling themselves at the prospect of running a few mods legally.

The 1 problem I can see with the NCOP stuff it's seem to be for 1 off stuff that really isn't the norm for people, like doing a stretched 4wd/limo or a wagon body onto a patrol chasis or those trikes.


for example if people look at the suspension guide NCOP won't cover a lift higher than 150mm, but a lift up/down of 1/3rd factory ride hight isn't covered by NCOP but state guidelines.

Then for an off-road vehicle you can't have a tire that's over 50mm or below 26mm of any of the tire placard tires.

So it may mean a different keetle of fish than what people would like.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:01 am
by grinch2
at the moment your lucky if a 50mm lift is legal or the next size tyre from std, so the new rules are going to be better for most people in qld.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:02 am
by mattc
Then for an off-road vehicle you can't have a tire that's over 50mm or below 26mm of any of the tire placard tires.
ACT enforce this. 15mm without engineering 50mm with engineering. ACT have basically adopted NCOP verbatim.

No legal 33's for Jeep wranglers anymore (29" stock) unless you were engineered before the new rules. Canberra jeepers have already been knocked back trying to get engineered on 33's.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:59 am
by bogged
mattc wrote:
Then for an off-road vehicle you can't have a tire that's over 50mm or below 26mm of any of the tire placard tires.
ACT enforce this. 15mm without engineering 50mm with engineering. ACT have basically adopted NCOP verbatim.

No legal 33's for Jeep wranglers anymore (29" stock) unless you were engineered before the new rules. Canberra jeepers have already been knocked back trying to get engineered on 33's.
we have so much to look forward to.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:58 am
by zagan
mattc wrote:
Then for an off-road vehicle you can't have a tire that's over 50mm or below 26mm of any of the tire placard tires.
ACT enforce this. 15mm without engineering 50mm with engineering. ACT have basically adopted NCOP verbatim.
That's because ACT and NT are run by Fedral giv anyway, so have to follow NCOP rules.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:25 am
by mkpatrol
zagan wrote:
mattc wrote:
Then for an off-road vehicle you can't have a tire that's over 50mm or below 26mm of any of the tire placard tires.
ACT enforce this. 15mm without engineering 50mm with engineering. ACT have basically adopted NCOP verbatim.
That's because ACT and NT are run by Fedral giv anyway, so have to follow NCOP rules.

ACT isnt, hasnt been for 18 years. The ACT RTA basically aligning themselves with the NSW RTA to try to be consistent.